Is it bad to mill too small and always use rice hulls to avoid the stuck mash? It seems like you can always get a good efficiency without worrying about your mill setting.
After some brews you’ll start to figure out your system, even if it’s the same system as other people it’s going to be slightly different than others. On my system I have figured out my water volumes and strike temp and other things that now I just know what I need to do, and I have never used rice hulls I don’t know why I do a fair amount of rice beers and beers with wheat but have never needed them and other people can’t get away without using them.Does 'your system' correspond to the bazooka tube/false bottom in your mash tun?
I've brewed many batches at 0.045" without rice hulls and never had a problem (I use a Spike 20 gal MT with false bottom; I also continuously recirculate and fly sparge). I then reduced my crush slightly (to about 0.04) and had a couple of close calls - whew! Then I went to grain conditioning and using rice hulls and was able to reduce my crush to 0.032", and have never had a problem. Rice hulls are cheap, do not alter the flavor, and provide ample insurance/peace of mind. So it's a no brainer for me, as I never want to deal with a stuck mash or sparge.Seems kind of odd being I'm sure plenty have the identical setup (same HD cooler for example, possibly same bazooka/false bottom). Maybe some choose rice hulls as an insurance policy, where others have brewed enough times where they have more confidence in not needing the hulls.
That metal base is a real enhancement.I tend to splurge on stuff to avoid buyers remorse. $100 doesn't seem bad, and it looks like its plenty for me as it can rest on a 5 gallon bucket and can be spun with a drill.
How much grain are you milking that takes half an hour?Adds half an hour, for me, at most. And it's a hobby, so there's no hourly wage accounting going on in my books.
Just keep in mind whichever one you do buy, if it has a hand crank on it, you can choose to not go hand crank and attach a drill to it to power it. some guys build a dedicated motor on theirs. i already own a few Lithium battery power drill drivers and they work just fine. my milling of 13 pounds takes maybe 3 minutes at most. Not sure how anyone is taking 30 minutes to mill doing a home sized batch.With all that's been said it sounds like I may not absolutely need a mill, but having one wouldn't hurt. Being it's not breaking the bank, and I have curiosity, I will likely pick up the cereal killer.
Most of that time is the weighing, since I use the scoop that came with my Vittles Vault to parcel it out and my scale only has a 4x4 inch platform.How much grain are you milking that takes half an hour?
I just did a batch with about 20 lbs of grain in ten minutes or so. My mill runs at about 150 RPM.
Agree,Most of that time is the weighing, since I use the scoop that came with my Vittles Vault to parcel it out and my scale only has a 4x4 inch platform.
And it's "at most" -- so far, that's about the longest it has taken, and that includes dragging out the scale, the pot I dump the weighed grain in, hooking up the drill to the mill, blowing residue off the mill, etc.
Do you add the rice hulls to the MT before you dough-in or is it mixed into the milled grain?Any time you feel the mash bed might result in a stuck mash. It add nothing to the flavor and is cheap insurance. I always add a hand full when I use wheat or sticky grains.
I tend to splurge on stuff to avoid buyers remorse. $100 doesn't seem bad, and it looks like its plenty for me as it can rest on a 5 gallon bucket and can be spun with a drill.
If you use dry yeast you can order a year's worth at the same time, Also hops. If you store them for the year you know they've been stored properly.Thinking about this more, maybe I will get the grain mill and try to plan out my brews for a year and order bulk grains from my LHBS. This way when it comes closer to brew day, I will only order hops/yeast and whatever else I need. I will not take a beating on shipping 4 times a year, probably paying off the cost of the grain mill pretty quickly.
I could have written this postI mill my own.
I don't brew in volume big enough to warrant buying and storing grain.
I mill my own simply because it is slightly less expensive for me to purchase the grain un-milled, and since I BIAB I want the crush finer than what the typical milled crush is from a HBS which then has to charge even more for the twice milled grain.
I also just like the feeling of doing it myself and finding the mill setting that works best for whatever I'm making.