Budwieser brewing is hard.

[Psylocide]

 

[joshesmusica]

if you're talking about volume share, craft brew had 11% of the market in 2014. if you're talking dollar share, they had 19.3%. They only continue to see growth every year.
and i would bet you that fast-food burger chains share about the same market share.

 

[JohnSand]

these are some of my favorite responses to threads like this. it kinda makes you start to wonder about that mindless robot thing mentioned above, doesn't it? when someone seems so clearly forced to read this type of thread, yet they hate every minute of it.

Another Internet Psychic! I didn't hate every minute of it. It was entertaining when joking about sympathy for AB. It suffered from a seemingly serious argument over the value of the company and their products.
Lighten up Francis, you can't actually shoot a thread. Other readers saw the humor in my post. Sorry you missed it.

 

[Natdavis777]

I think we all just need to brew a Light American Lager, evaluate how the beer turns out, and if feasible, submit it to competition and see how it fairs (in terms of score).

 

[Psylocide]

I think we all just need to brew a Light American Lager, evaluate how the beer turns out, and if feasible, submit it to competition and see how it fairs (in terms of score).

Anyone got a source for Beechwood?

 

[Grossy]

The part that I cannot phathom is why are there so many homebrewers who fanatically defend BMC.

I do not like Fat Tire. A beer that is infinitely better than BMC. If I were to post that I do not like Fat Tire, it would generate about 10 hits.

And no one would use some ridiculous phrase that Fat Tire is good because it is "consistent".

(Fat Tire is a well made beer, just not to my liking)

 

[Psylocide]

The part that I cannot phathom is why are there so many homebrewers who fanatically defend BMC.

I do not like Fat Tire. A beer that is infinitely better than BMC. If I were to post that I do not like Fat Tire, it would generate about 10 hits.

And no one would use some ridiculous phrase that Fat Tire is good because it is "consistent".

Because we are fanatically berated for drinking it.

Biggest prejudice in this community, for certain.

But I won't make the consistency argument, I'm just here for the fireworks.

 

[Natdavis777]

Anyone got a source for Beechwood?

Yeah, in your back yard!! Boom, Roasted!

 

[SnakeRidge]

Imma crack me a tall cold Natty Lite and watch them fireworks.

 

[Grossy]

Because we are fanatically berated for drinking it.

As you should be. We're homebrewers damn it!

 

[Psylocide]

As you should be. We're homebrewers damn it!

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/homebrewing-needs-bmc-touch-517243/

 

[Paps]

consumers are idiots and will buy what they're told, .

Most indeed are sadly.
Why else would A/B spend millions each and every year for superbowl slots.
Repetition works.
Sex sells.
The avg Joe/Jane doesn't like to be forced into critical thinking,
Most just want some background noise on the radio for the workday or are trying to relax after work watching TV.
They preffer the ongoings of their day not be brought to a screeching halt due to something that demands/requires their full attention.
Even if only on a subconcious level hearing company x's ad on the radio will increas the chances for sales, same as seing it over and over from your favorite tv show.
It's the human brain and how it functions, nobody is completely free from it but some can from an outside perspective at least observe it and try to be aware when it is being bombarded by ads that have the sole motivation to seperate you from your wealth.

 

[kombat]

consumers are idiots and will buy what they're told

Most indeed are sadly.

Wow, the hubris is staggering.

If only the rest of society was as enlightened as us, eh? Kinda scary to think that that vast army of shallow-thinking, lazy morons are flying our airplanes, guarding our borders (with guns even!), processing our food, driving our buses, operating on patients... it's amazing we haven't rendered ourselves extinct yet.

 

[cantrell00]

Wow, the hubris is staggering.

If only the rest of society was as enlightened as us, eh? Kinda scary to think that that vast army of shallow-thinking, lazy morons are flying our airplanes, guarding our borders (with guns even!), processing our food, driving our buses, operating on patients... it's amazing we haven't rendered ourselves extinct yet.

Thanks... Saved me the trouble.

Quite the arrogant lot on this chit chat board these days..

 

[orangehero]

Then explain why millions of penis enlargement pills are sold every day? At least that's what the hot doctor woman on TV says. Is it that so many men have small penises, or that a few men have really really small penises?

 

[joshesmusica]

Wow, the hubris is staggering.

If only the rest of society was as enlightened as us, eh? Kinda scary to think that that vast army of shallow-thinking, lazy morons are flying our airplanes, guarding our borders (with guns even!), processing our food, driving our buses, operating on patients... it's amazing we haven't rendered ourselves extinct yet.

there's probably a balance somewhere in the middle that admits that we're all used to our old ways of doing things and very easily influenced by outside factors and don't like much change, and calling everyone mindless sheep. if you can't admit that advertising plays a major influence in things, then you're not really in touch with reality. most humans (myself and yourself included) are quite shallow thinkers. it's why the circles of poverty, hunger, human trafficking and the like still go on in our highly enlightened world. if the majority (or if even just the top 1% of the rich) in the world were deep thinkers, all of the aforementioned would end.

 

[kombat]

Of course marketing works. But "marking" and "history" and "regulation and policy" are not the reason Budweiser sells 100+ million barrels of beer every year.

Why can't you just admit that some people (smart ones, even) just plain like the taste of plain beer? Why does that offend you so much? Why is it so important to your ego that you elevate yourself above such people somehow?

 

[1977Brewer]

I'm a sucker for clever advertising. It rarely influences my purchasing decisions, but I can appreciate the time and effort the advertising industry puts in to sell me stuff. I even like a good beer commercial, even if I never buy that brand of beer.

Ad money makes TV possible. Without it, we'd have HBO, PBS and 800 channels of pay per view. So, whatever puts basketball in front of my face, I'm fine with it.

 

[Grossy]

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/homebrewing-needs-bmc-touch-517243/

I agree we need to be nice to each other, but that does not mean that I will accept BMC as beer. When threads like this appear I will state my opinion about BMC. Even at the risk of being called a crunchy hipster.

With the above in mind , You stated in an earlier thread that you like Busch beer. Have you seen anyone about this?

 

[joshesmusica]

i guess you missed that whole "myself included" part?
i'm not offended at all, and will even enjoy a free crappy lager or pils. i'll never pay for one, personally, but that won't keep me from drinking one.
why does it offend you so much that it could possibly be much bigger than that "people just enjoy tastelessness?"

 

[Psylocide]

I agree we need to be nice to each other, but that does not mean that I will accept BMC as beer. When threads like this appear I will state my opinion about BMC. Even at the risk of being called a crunchy hipster.

With the above in mind , You stated in an earlier thread that you like Busch beer. Have you seen anyone about this?

I drink a ton of Busch Light, yes. The only person I've seen about it is the owner of the liquor store down the street. Asked if they had some kind of reward program... they don't.

 

[joshesmusica]

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/homebrewing-needs-bmc-touch-517243/

hahaha that was funny!

 

[kombat]

why does it offend you so much that it could possibly be much bigger than that "people just enjoy tastelessness?"

Because I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy. The simplest explanation, the one that makes the most sense, is most likely the correct one. It's not mind control or brainwashing, it's not government regulation or history, it's not people trying to get drunk as cheaply as possible. They've simply developed a taste for it, it's comfortable, they know what to expect, and they're not interested in developing a palette for more diverse flavour possibilities in their beer.

It offends me because it smacks of elitism. It implies you're better than they are, because you have an appreciation for Imperial Sours and they don't. You're the guy making fun of the guy ordering plain old chicken tenders while you're ordering 2 pounds of "suicide wings" at the pub.

 

[orangehero]

This isn't really about beer, is it? Are you trying to make up for being incapable of taking on the suicide wings challenge?

What you've described isn't really Occam's Razor, the world is a little more complex. Now, if we were talking about the cabal of corn farmers and Hollywood that run this country. Oh wait.

 

[1977Brewer]

You know what's great with ridiculously hot wings? Miller Lite.

 

[SnakeRidge]

Great, now I want wings.

 

[Psylocide]

Great, now I want wings.

Wish granted.

Engage mouthwater.

 

[SnakeRidge]

How bout a miller lite to wash down them wings with?

 

[1977Brewer]

How bout a miller lite to wash down them wings with?

(Not my pic, too funny not to use)

And for your reading pleasure:

http://40ozmaltliquorparadise.yuku.com/

 

[joshesmusica]

Because I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy. The simplest explanation, the one that makes the most sense, is most likely the correct one. It's not mind control or brainwashing, it's not government regulation or history, it's not people trying to get drunk as cheaply as possible. They've simply developed a taste for it, it's comfortable, they know what to expect, and they're not interested in developing a palette for more diverse flavour possibilities in their beer.

It offends me because it smacks of elitism. It implies you're better than they are, because you have an appreciation for Imperial Sours and they don't. You're the guy making fun of the guy ordering plain old chicken tenders while you're ordering 2 pounds of "suicide wings" at the pub.

where did that taste develop from? when is it most likely that people tried BMC beers first? yes, you're right, when they were drinking it to get drunk.....

it only smacks of elitism because of all the parts you're so willingly ignoring. like that part where i said that it's fact that everybody gets influenced by outside forces. like how someone mentioned about the mouth watering. do you think people aren't prone to that because the test was done with dogs? the difference is i'm just willing to admit it happens. it has nothing to do with that i don't eat crap food or drink crap food. but i have the guts to admit there are also better tasting things out there.