Brewing in Germany ingredients

[garyhood]

So we have a pot now to make some beer here in Germany. I have made beer about 9 times in the USA but I am having some more difficulties here in Germany. I made one recipe but it is coming out to be pretty expensive.. I was wondering if someone could help me dumb down this beer to make it a nice balanced pale ale for a little cheaper... here is what i came up with....

67% 5lb Extra Light Dry Extract

18% 1lb 6oz Weyermann Pale Ale

10% 12 oz Melanoiden Malt

5% 6 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine

Hops:
1 oz Perle 60min
1 oz Fuggle 30 min
1 oz Fuggle 10min

Wyeast American 1056

the projected outcome would be so.. OG 1.057 FG 1.014 Color 5 SRM Al. 5.7%

Here is the website.. It is in german but the majority of ingrdients can be understood in english.. hops- hopfen. malt and fermentables- malz , hefe- yeast

Any help would be great!
Just looking to make something different than what you can find here in germany and i think a nice balance pale ale would be great!

 

[Kaiser]

The link to the website got lost.

Kai

 

[garyhood]

my bad http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/

 

[Kaiser]

I see that their selection of unhopped malt extract is a little slim, but I hope this helps:

light unhopped malt extract (liquid):
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/pr...essiger-Malzextrakt-hell-ungehopft-15-kg.html

Weyermann Pale Malt:
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/pr...ngen/Pale-Ale-Malz-Weyermann-ca55-75-EBC.html

Melanoiden malt:
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/products/Malz-Malzmischungen/Melanoidinmalz-60-80-EBC.html

Cara Pils:
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/products/Malz-Malzmischungen/CaraPils-Weyermann-ca-3-5-EBC.html

Perle Hops:
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/pr...-ca-10-Alpha-Preis-siehe-Packungsgroesse.html

Fuggles
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/products/Hopfen/Aromahopfen-Pellets/Fuggles-ca-42-Alpha-100-g.html

1056:
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/pr...ge-Fluessighefe/Wyeast-1056-American-Ale.html

or dry (Nottingham):
http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/pr...Trockenhefe/Danstar-Nottingham-Ale-115-g.html


I hope this helps. Let me know if you need more. PM me if I don't respond for a while.

Kai

 

[garyhood]

So you think my ingredients I laid out will make a decent pale ale? The liquid extract is a good idea that saves about 8 euros or so any other ideas?
cheers
Gary

 

[Kaiser]

So you think my ingredients I laid out will make a decent pale ale? The liquid extract is a good idea that saves about 8 euros or so any other ideas?
cheers
Gary

I don't know. I didn't check the recipe. Maybe others can chime in.

Kai

 

[Pappers_]

Gary, are you going to steep the grains, or are you going to do a partial mash? If its a partial mash, then what you have will probably work.

If you want to use the extract/steep method, though, I'd suggest getting rid of your pale ale malt, up the extract to compensate, and add in a specialty malt or two to add flavor and depth, such as a caramel or crystal 20 or 40. This is in addition to carapils (which adds mouthfeel/body, but not flavor).

Even if you are doing a partial mash and want to mash the pale ale malt, I would still consider adding some caramel or crystal malt.

In any case, good luck!

 

[garyhood]

Yea finding specialty malts in germany are particularly hard.. Most of the time i find they just sell very generic malt types. No crystal 20, 40 etc.. I have re-looked into the recipe and thought that this might be something better.. on the lines of what you are saying.. closest thing i could find to a specialty malt sub. to the pale ale malt. Any corrections or help would be great.. also should i follow the procedure of extract/steep method? (3- 3.3 qt water @ 164 w/ grains for 30-45 mins) I am targeting to make a Pale Ale. In the Beer Calculus I have all the dimensions needed to hit the target. However, will this beer come out tasting decent?

6lb light/pale malt syrup
1 1/2 lb Weyermann Carahell
12 oz Melandonin
8 oz cara-pils

1 oz Perle 60min
1 oz Fuggle 30 min
1 oz Fuggle 10 min

Safale US-05

 

[Pappers_]

Looks good to me, will make a nice pale ale! Carahell is a light German crystal malt, if I understand correctly.

Cheers!

 

[garyhood]

Thanks for all the help!

Just a last question. I have used the Meladonin malt a couple times but never really understood its properties.. I have recently read that it is a mashing grain.. Would it make a difference if i left it out of my recipe or not? I am not using a lot of it.. I figured the reason I have seen it in most recipes and I have included it in 2 of my own is to add some color and taste. But this will not improve any sugars in the beer. Am I correct on this? Trying to learn a little more everyday
cheers
Gary

 

[Brew-Happy]

Just to help those that do not speak/read German (me included):

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobbybrauerversand.de%2F&sl=de&tl=en

Gotta love Google Translate

Look around here for tips making your own caramel, biscuit, or chocolate malt. Usually, it is just an oven, water mister, timer, and experimentation.

Example: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/home-roasting-expert-needed-138483/

 

[StAnthonyB]

I don't know. I didn't check the recipe. Maybe others can chime in.

Kai

You saw the word 'Germany' and couldn't resist. Could ya'?

 

[Diablo]

Yea finding specialty malts in germany are particularly hard.. Most of the time i find they just sell very generic malt types. No crystal 20, 40 etc..

These guys in Belgium should have everything you need and will ship to Germany: http://www.brouwland.com/en/

 

[Kaiser]

You saw the word 'Germany' and couldn't resist. Could ya'?

No I couldn't.

Gary, leave the Melanoiden malt out if you don't want to mash grains.

Kai

that was post 3333. Cool.