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Sorry I have not contributed in a while. I was considering a brew this weekend so I thought I would see what is new around here

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Where did u find that? Is it a new article? The only date i could see was at the very bottom of the page- 2020.

I still have this theory that Brewie just closed to the US, Canada, etc. But are still operating in Hungary and maybe other European countries.

Welcome back- hope you get to brew!!
 
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Where did u find that? Is it a new article? The only date i could see was at the very bottom of the page- 2020.

I still have this theory that Brewie just closed to the US, Canada, etc. But are still operating in Hungary and maybe other European countries.

Welcome back- hope you get to brew!!

I don't remember..... I think it was by searching for "Budapest brewie" or something like that or the other search was for the 2020 grant they received from the European union back a few years ago. It is listed on the website at the bottom of the homepage...... and of course it is down right now so I can't look. But I think it was a Horizon 2020 Grant but I can't be sure. I wat to say that the article was from 2015 about the time they got their grant.
 
I don't remember..... I think it was by searching for "Budapest brewie" or something like that or the other search was for the 2020 grant they received from the European union back a few years ago. It is listed on the website at the bottom of the homepage...... and of course it is down right now so I can't look. But I think it was a Horizon 2020 Grant but I can't be sure. I wat to say that the article was from 2015 about the time they got their grant.

Ok, that would make sense. For years their website had at the bottom something along the lines of 'funded by agrant from' some such thing like you stated.
I was wondering if that was a NEW article- sounds like not.

On a slightly related theme... y'all see the troubles Pico us going thru? I had no idea until i got that email from them.

The future of automated machines looks troubled... i guess with the lower cost of Grainfather, robo brew, anvil, etc there is not enough market for brewie, pico.... sigh.
 
My first post. I purchased a Brewie+ from The Malt Miller back on 23 Nov 2018, and I've never switched it on. I also have the following unopened Brewie pads 2 x Rusty Rex, 2 x Red Neck Hopster, 2 x Hopus Pocus. I'm thinking all this is unusable now?
 
I can't speak for the pads - maybe they will still taste fine? In any case, I think it would be a waste to just throw them out, instead of trying to brew them.
For the brewie itself, it definately is usable.... with a but:

If you're willing to put up with it's quirks, then there's nothing quite like it!
If you want something that just works without any problems whatsoever - then you might want to sell it.

If you are ok with doing a bit of fiddling with it, there's tons of help to get, both here and on the facebook group.
 
My first post. I purchased a Brewie+ from The Malt Miller back on 23 Nov 2018, and I've never switched it on. I also have the following unopened Brewie pads 2 x Rusty Rex, 2 x Red Neck Hopster, 2 x Hopus Pocus. I'm thinking all this is unusable now?
I just made brew #35 or so on my original Brewie B20 yesterday
A few of thoose 35 batches failed due to Brewie issues. A few more failed because of me (more by my fault than Brewie).
But i would say it is 90% plus i can rely on it!!
When it works it is a thing of beauty!!
As Ajes says, ya gott work out the kinks! If you have never used it, then you can easily repaie the wires and add the fans.
Note- only need to do wire mod if its 110V.

Brewieforum.net is your best resource

As for your brewie pads- use them! They can be your test kits. If the wort comes out, then maybe fresh yeast?
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to update the firmware?
yes, that's entirely possible.
Mind you - there's both "software" and "firmware".
The software is on a small sd card, in a slot on the "arm board" (this is a bit like a raspberry pi mini computer). This board is located inside the same white panel that the display is on.
This is a simple update - you can find the image for version 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 on brewieforum.net. Just write that image on the sd card and put it back - then you've upgraded.
Then there's the "firmware" - this is what is running on the "mcu" board, which essentially is an arduino mega. This might not be necessary to update - and also takes a bit more of work to do.
 
30 plus brews on my B20, no problems, increased cooling by adding thicker spacers on the fixed feet then level with the adjustable ones, this prevents the Fan Cavitation being too close to a surface, and of course replaced the fuse with a microwave duty one, waiting for a wire failure then UNSHIELDED WIRE MIL-W-22759/16 | Aircraft Spruce with silver solder connector ends
 
30 plus brews on my B20, no problems, increased cooling by adding thicker spacers on the fixed feet then level with the adjustable ones, this prevents the Fan Cavitation being too close to a surface, and of course replaced the fuse with a microwave duty one, waiting for a wire failure then UNSHIELDED WIRE MIL-W-22759/16 | Aircraft Spruce with silver solder connector ends
Really good call on the higher feet... duh! So simple, yet probably makes a huge difference!
Genius!
 
yes, that's entirely possible.
Mind you - there's both "software" and "firmware".
The software is on a small sd card, in a slot on the "arm board" (this is a bit like a raspberry pi mini computer). This board is located inside the same white panel that the display is on.
This is a simple update - you can find the image for version 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 on brewieforum.net. Just write that image on the sd card and put it back - then you've upgraded.
Then there's the "firmware" - this is what is running on the "mcu" board, which essentially is an arduino mega. This might not be necessary to update - and also takes a bit more of work to do.

I know the software is out there for both B20 and B+. Make sure you get the right one!!
I am fairly sure there was at least discussion on firmware- some of the ebay units came needing it.
That site has all the info from here, google drive files, and everything else i have ever seen on the Brewie.

Coming soon... Picoforum.net! So sad. The days of auto brewing are lessening...
 
After replacing the wiring on my 2nd ebay b20 (first ebay B20 is doing great) and putting it back together, it turned out that I also had a bad thermostat switch.

I replaced that today and put it back together and now everything on the control board fails to work once the B20 is fully booted up...but when it starts up all of the valves are clicking away just fine.

I've tried dev mode in v3.0 (!#43374#) as well as v3.12 (morecontrol) and it's the same for each...I'm actually seeing what I believe to be more evidence that the control board firmware is shot (the temp and water volumes all show -1).

Everything except the boil side had worked a few weeks ago after the wiring upgrade (except for the boil heater).

I think tomorrow I'll get in vis SSH and try forcing a firmware update to see if that get breath life back into it. Any other ideas or comments would be great since this is pretty much all I can think of right now.


Have you double checked the connections from the sensors back to the I/O boards and the connectors from the main board to the remote boards? (I have a Plus) I was showing a -1 on only the raw water after re-assembling the last time. I found that one of the crimped on pins for the pressure sensor had pulled out of the connector that plugs into the board. Pushed the pin back in and added some hot melt glue to hold it in place and the water volume came back. You are missing all the measurements maybe you have a loose connector. With everything you need to move to get at the boil heater there is a potential for things to come loose.
 
I think it's a mix of cutting costs to manufacture and poor engineering/testing that was necessary to make the cost cutting work out...stuff like wires/connectors melting is incredibly poor engineering and what I believe, caused the company to fail.

To their credit, they came up with some really cool engineering to fit so much into the small form factor...I'm still impressed with the idea of using pinch valves and how reliable they've been (for me)...smaller, cheaper and because they never actually contact liquid, should be more reliable (no sticky residue) and require no cleaning inside the valves. I'm sure they have their faults but they seem far superior to expensive ball valves for this application.

Ultimately, I think it's a double edged sword to pack as much as possible into a system which uses heat to provide functionality and not use proper "heat management" (insulation, heat-resistant materials, ventilation, etc) to protect the internals...if you use high quality materials then you have less to worry about but again, that's what I mean when I'm talking about compensating for cut costs with engineering.


I completely agree they focused more on the size and looks of the package and did not pay enough/any attention to heat management. Having been inside multiple times I am of the opinion that a few addition inches of overall height would have allowed a few inches air space under boil and mash kettles. Throw in dedicated fans to get the heat off the heat element terminals. I also question wrapping the heat elements with foil insulation, I am not sure how much it helps with keeping heat in kettle but it is definitely contributing to the overheating of the terminals and thermostat.

I also have a comment on the Fan upgrade documented on this forum. I did install it but I question how effective it is. In my case there is large sheet of silicon that prevents the heat element terminal from shorting out on the foil insulation. The silicon sheet also limits how effective the fan is at taking heat off the terminals. The big plus is using the proper temperature rated components when do the wiring upgrade.

Does any know the serial number or date of Manufacture that Brewie implemented the wiring upgrade into production?
 
Hello everyone, I have another problem,
after many successful brews, the automatic water intake when cooking according to the recipe stopped working. When flushing, the automatic water intake works. What is the reason I do not understand.
 
I bought a Brewie B20+ a couple months ago, it's brand new, software version is 3.0.16. Wondering if it's worth the effort to update it?

I'm fairly good at IT, but not a coder. Anyone want to guide me through the firmware and software? I would pay for your time and help... probably over Zoom.

I got it on clearance from BrewMore, they were selling them at massive discount, figured it would be worth the risk...
 
Hi Guys, I'm new here. First I want to thanks you, reading this thread helped me fixing my brewie. Since your post have been helpfull for me, I want to share my experience with you and probably helping others to fix this issue, that is to me a major design flaw and might occure on every 120V Brewie+. I am an electrionic and electrical designer living in Quebec City, Canada (yep a french Canadian). I use to design and bultd power unit, drives, robotic stuff for industrial, so I know pretty well all those components and I'll be willing to help everyone of you if asked for. here is my story with the Brewie+.

I get my brewie (B+) end of september, brew 5 5gallons batchs, with the impression the boilling was less and less powerfull from batch to batch. Sunday, I setup the machine then start the brewing of a belgina white I already brewed with this machine. the tank fillup then, when the element turn on, POW, the breaker in the electrical pannel not far trip violently... OK, that's not normal, isn't a standard trip of a breaker, something have shorted to the ground badly.

At that point I was wondering if I can or not open the brewie seal at the bottom without voiding the warenty.. it's at this moment that I read your posts and realise that in any case of pump clog we have to open the machine anyway. I fill a ticket on Brewie website but it's been 2 days and no news from them.

here is how it look inside, few of you had and have the same issue but without the BANG. 3 of the 4 therminals are coocked and unlucky as always in my existance, the element tabs was so close to the thermal switch posts that it finaly made direct contact to the ground.

I know exactly what happen and sadly most 120V machine might need an upgrade. the main issue is our 120Vac. the original machine was made in europe, the 220Vac kingdom, so in there roughly half the current pass thru those therminals, genrating less heat by contact resistance. Looking at those therminals, they look not crimped so good (maybe not the right tool used) and they are quite loose on the tabs. Here it's important to understand that every connection offer a tiny resistance, over a certain current limit heat buildup and then problems occur, that's why a contact is rated in his capacity in current (A) pass a certain curent it overheat and is not able to dissipate this energy, and it's a death circle. Also it's not a normal thing to use glue to hold the tabs during shipping, a good match of tabs and terminal should hold without any compond.

So, I cleaned every tabs on the thermal switch and element with a fiberglass contact cleaner. I replaced the 4 terminal with panduit terminals and crimped them with the panduit tool (take care to cut an other 1/4in of the wire to reach the wire unaffected area, it give a better contact. So then I placed a good quality heatshrink over the tabs (will inspect the machine after a brew and see). when pluging back the therminals, it's important to feel a good resistance, cheap tabs are olften too lose and you might need to close them a little with a plyer before connecting em. In my case the SSR burned, the current from the short toast it, luckly I had one in my stuff. i will continue monitor the situation and look regulary at the connection. My point of view on the situation is that Brewie have a major problem in their hands and they know it. Not everybody have time and tools to do this job but sadly, if every 120Vac machine have the same terminals crimped with the same tool... there is a good chance everybody have this issue.

Thanks
Greetings from the Left Coast from a guy with a French name. Your post was fabulous and in conjunction with the repair guides has me happily working on repairing a B+. Plus the Fan upgrade. Thanks.
Any idea where in Canada to get Micro JST connectors?
 
Greetings from the Left Coast from a guy with a French name. Your post was fabulous and in conjunction with the repair guides has me happily working on repairing a B+. Plus the Fan upgrade. Thanks.
Any idea where in Canada to get Micro JST connectors?

Amazon? Is that an option for you? If not, ebay? Finally- just about any on-line or brick and mortar electronics warehouse.[/QUOTE]
 
I bought a Brewie B20+ a couple months ago, it's brand new, software version is 3.0.16. Wondering if it's worth the effort to update it?

I'm fairly good at IT, but not a coder. Anyone want to guide me through the firmware and software? I would pay for your time and help... probably over Zoom.

I got it on clearance from BrewMore, they were selling them at massive discount, figured it would be worth the risk...

Hey.
Better late than never:
You can update it yourself - you need to open the bottom up, and get to an sd card.
If you go to brewieforum.net you can find guides on how to do it, and also the image for the sd card.
 
there is large sheet of silicon that prevents the heat element terminal from shorting out on the foil insulation. The silicon sheet also limits how effective the fan is at taking heat off the terminals. The big plus is using the proper temperature rated components when do the wiring upgrade.

Yes.... they all have that sheet of silicone. You need to go back and reread the fan installation instructions. You have to cut holes in the sheet and insulation to move the air over the terminals and remove the heat. Blow the air onto the ceramic blocks and the hot air will exit in the center under the hop tanks if you do everything right.
 
Just buttoned everything back up after doing the wiring repair/ temp switch replacement and extra fan upgrade. Really appreciate the community support on this project!

I'm running 3.1.1 is it worth it to try and update software. Ran calibration on it and it's pretty much spot on. I've got a B+

Also ran into this article when I was trying to figure out how to use filtered water instead of the gross tap water we have here:

http://think.gusius.com/brewie-adding-an-additional-inlet-for-filtered-water/
 
Just buttoned everything back up after doing the wiring repair/ temp switch replacement and extra fan upgrade. Really appreciate the community support on this project!

I'm running 3.1.1 is it worth it to try and update software. Ran calibration on it and it's pretty much spot on. I've got a B+

Also ran into this article when I was trying to figure out how to use filtered water instead of the gross tap water we have here:

http://think.gusius.com/brewie-adding-an-additional-inlet-for-filtered-water/
I kinda do the same thing... I bought an "RV In-Line Water Filter" from the amazon for like $18. It is a basic charcoal filter. My water is not that bad to begin with though. It is easy to remove between cleaning and cooling cycles so I am not wasting "filtered" water (Although I always do a quick clean with it on before I brew to run filtered water through).
Note- to anyone like me using a hose for their water supply... make sure to get a "Drinking Water" hose! Again- the amazon or Walmart is fine. They are common for RV uses. That made a bigger difference in my beer flavor than the filter did. File this under "DUH dummy!" for most of you who already knew this! lol. I did not, until I read it, I think- here on this forum.
 
Note- to anyone like me using a hose for their water supply... make sure to get a "Drinking Water" hose! Again- the amazon or Walmart is fine. They are common for RV uses. That made a bigger difference in my beer flavor than the filter did. File this under "DUH dummy!" for most of you who already knew this! lol. I did not, until I read it, I think- here on this forum.
Lol.... how "funny" tasting was the beer that was made with the garden hose? I can't imagine drinking a beer that tastes like the garden hose water i remember from my childhood. And of course today we know that garden hoses leach all kinds of nasties into the water.
 
Lol.... how "funny" tasting was the beer that was made with the garden hose? I can't imagine drinking a beer that tastes like the garden hose water i remember from my childhood. And of course today we know that garden hoses leach all kinds of nasties into the water.
Ha! That brings back good memories to me, really! I think actually I only used the first hose for cleaning and cooling. Once I started using the auto water inlet for brewing, I think I bought a real hose. But still... never should have used that cheap hose!
 
Is there a way to upload beerxml recipes to the Brewie? I haven't yet brewed a batch but trying to avoid the tedium of using the onscreen keyboard to enter ingredients...
 
Is there a way to upload beerxml recipes to the Brewie? I haven't yet brewed a batch but trying to avoid the tedium of using the onscreen keyboard to enter ingredients...
I do not think so. The app helped (when it worked) but othwerise... no. Best advice- copy and paste recipies. I.e. use the same base for an ipa, pale ale, pilsner, etc. Then just adjust each step. It gets easier.
 
For all of you that thought the Brewie was a little pricey, take a look at this disaster of a thing that says it will have beer ready in 4 days.
https://lcpshop.net/product/beer-machine-automatic-brewing-device/
Where did you find this?? Boil inside the machine, them remove the bag for an hour??? Use malt extract? Looks like basically a temp controlled 2.5 gallon fermenting amd serving vessell??
Who thinks this will work??

Anyways, i got one on order... i will report back after the first brew!! Lol
 
Hello everyone!
Is there any way to downgrade the firmware from version 7 to version 6 on the B20?
 
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