Brewer's Friend OG Estimates Off?

[jdubdvdt]

EDIT: Posts #6 and #7 show the resolution. Must have been because I had an inventory of the grains that had corrupted mash values.

I have been using Brewer's Friend for awhile. Just started brewing the same beers with a friend who uses BrewFather.

I hand calculated my OG and it should be how BrewFather is calculating it, but Brewer's Friend is showing a major difference. Trying to figure out if it is a setting issue or a software issue on Brewer's Friend. Both are set to 75% Brewhouse efficiency (mash efficiency is a driven calculation, supposidly). Preboil volumes are slightly different but not the significance of 1.049 vs 1.042 (5.5 vs 4.5% abv).

^^ Brewer's Friend

^^ Brew Father



Hand Calculating
(4*36.8)+(3*40)+(1.75*34)+(1*36) = 362.7 gravity points per gallon
362.7 ppg/6.5g = 55.8 points or 1.0558 OG at 100% BH efficiency
At 75% efficiency that is 1.04185 or 1.042 OG which is what BrewFather is calculating.


What am I missing? I am paying for Brewer's Friend.

 

[OLBrews]

Something weird here - I put your grain bill in Brewer's Friend and got the expected 1.042 OG. Try saving, closing your browser, then reopening. If that doesn't work reach out to Brewer's Friend directly, I've found them to be very responsive.

 

[jdubdvdt]

Something weird here - I put your grain bill in Brewer's Friend and got the expected 1.042 OG. Try saving, closing your browser, then reopening. If that doesn't work reach out to Brewer's Friend directly, I've found them to be very responsive.

Thanks for plugging it into yours.

This has been going on for a few days between the app on my phone and my computer. Tried clearing cache and restarting as well. I will reach out to Brewer's Friend. This is not the only time I have had issues with expected gravities.

 

[pers]

Did same and got expected results in Brewers Friend. Results you're seeing are for a 5.5 Gallon batch even though you have 6.5 Gallons inputted.

 

[jdubdvdt]

I started a new recipe, made sure I used the default equipment profile (instead of my brewzilla), placed ingredients into builder and got the same results I have been getting still.

Weird. I sent a message to the support team - hopefully they can point me to something simple otherwise I will be switching to brewfather.

 

[pricelessbrewing]

I started a new recipe, made sure I used the default equipment profile (instead of my brewzilla), placed ingredients into builder and got the same results I have been getting still.

Weird. I sent a message to the support team - hopefully they can point me to something simple otherwise I will be switching to brewfather.

Hey there, Pricelessbrewing here from Brewer's Friend!

I logged into your account and poked around, the issue is there are two ingredients being used from your inventory that are not behaving as "mashed". The rahr 2 row, and the barke Vienna.

What that means is that they're essentially behaving at 100% efficiency, it's been a process getting fixed and troubleshooting is very difficult for our users so we'll be pushing an update as soon as possible to remove this behavior, it'll still be possible for those that intend it via the "late addition" but that's much more visible.

Fix for you: go in and replace the ingredients with new copies and it'll be resolved. We fixed it in our ingredient database at some point but your inventory copy is from before we did so it has an out of date copy that wasn't 'mashed".

Should have that release update done soon so others don't encounter the same difficulties!

 

[jdubdvdt]

Boom. That seems to have done the trick.
Thanks for looking into it.

 

[pricelessbrewing]

Thanks for reaching out! I'm not as active over here as much, but give me a message here, on our forums, or send us an email and we'll get right back to you and see what we can do to improve!

 

[Peteinno]

Another example of the great support from Brewer's Friend. I once had a suggestion for a kettle dead space calculation (AIO) and they were quick to respond, worked on a solution, kept me updated, and had me test the solution. Great folks and great software.