orangehero
Well-Known Member
Old Weller Antique is a solid wheated bourbon. Same Van Winkle formula.
Did a blind taste test with my neighbor and the 12 different Bourbons/Whiskey we own collectively.
Angel's Envy
Elija Craig 12
Jeremiah Weed
Larceny
Bulliet
Basil Haydens
Mckenna 10
Four Roses small batch
Tin Cup
Eagle Rare
Old Grandad 114
Sam Houston
Set it up as 3 flights of 4 then a best of show. Pretty damm interesting when you do it blind without pricepoints, lables and paradigms.
My top 4 in order were:
Bulliet
Larceny
Elija Craig 12
Henry Mckenna 10
His were:
Four Roses
Angel's Envy
and I forget the rest.
At the conclusion I was pretty tipsy, had a fatigued palate and really happy that I chose some of the cheaper stuff as my fav.
Did a blind taste test with my neighbor and the 12 different Bourbons/Whiskey we own collectively.
Angel's Envy
Elija Craig 12
Jeremiah Weed
Larceny
Bulliet
Basil Haydens
Mckenna 10
Four Roses small batch
Tin Cup
Eagle Rare
Old Grandad 114
Sam Houston
Set it up as 3 flights of 4 then a best of show. Pretty damm interesting when you do it blind without pricepoints, lables and paradigms.
My top 4 in order were:
Bulliet
Larceny
Elija Craig 12
Henry Mckenna 10
His were:
Four Roses
Angel's Envy
and I forget the rest.
At the conclusion I was pretty tipsy, had a fatigued palate and really happy that I chose some of the cheaper stuff as my fav.
Did a blind taste test with my neighbor and the 12 different Bourbons/Whiskey we own collectively.
Angel's Envy
Elija Craig 12
Jeremiah Weed
Larceny
Bulliet
Basil Haydens
Mckenna 10
Four Roses small batch
Tin Cup
Eagle Rare
Old Grandad 114
Sam Houston
Set it up as 3 flights of 4 then a best of show. Pretty damm interesting when you do it blind without pricepoints, lables and paradigms.
My top 4 in order were:
Bulliet
Larceny
Elija Craig 12
Henry Mckenna 10
His were:
Four Roses
Angel's Envy
and I forget the rest.
At the conclusion I was pretty tipsy, had a fatigued palate and really happy that I chose some of the cheaper stuff as my fav.
Long as her name is Betty Ford.... ha
HA!
Anyone know if Weller 12 is a seasonal release? I can't find it anywhere. Antique and Special Reserve are available in my area, so it's not a distributor issue....
I don't believe so... It's regularly stocked in one of my local liquor stores. They do sell out occasionally, though, and if it's like a lot of other bourbons, it might be in short supply due to increased demand.
Damm, where do you live?
This will have to tide me over for the time being. It's pretty amazing considering 30$ for a gigantic vat.... and better tasting than Makers Mark (which is twice the price)
Antique is a pass anyway... NBD.
I've heard with the current Bourbon cultural resurgence, we're all looking at massive shortages and a price increase 10-20%. Good stuff just takes a long time to make
I'm hoping it's just because some hipsters have latched on to it, and that they'll soon move on to something else that they "knew before it was cool," leaving more bourbon for us...
I have also heard that about a lot o "standard" bourbon with rye. Notice that the Van Winkle and Weller hooch that are aged a long time are wheated bourbon. One thing about bourbon is that unlike Scotch, the use of newly charred barrels may allow bourbon to get to drinkable age a bit faster.I recently got a few friends together for a blind bourbon tasting (which turned into more of a whiskey drinking as the night went on, but I digress...)
I brought Elmer T. Lee (a commemorative single barrel offering from Buffalo Trace, I recommend it if you can find it), my buddies brought over Larceny, Bulleit Bourbon, and Woodford Reserve.
I've always been more of a high-rye-kinda-guy, and the ETL, Bulleit, and Larceny all fit that description. Past memories of Woodford were always a little sweet for me. Nothing here was the really top-shelf, wheated, age-for-beyond-15-year kind of stuff, but we're recent graduates and I'm fine with that.
Anyway, tasting blind, only one of the whiskeys really stood far apart from the others (and not in a good way.) The Larceny stood at 94 proof, whereas everything else was 90, so I thought it might be that. Wrong. With a distinctly medicinal note, slight astringency, and the only rating of "I just don't like this" of the four, was Woodford. I know that's probably a polarizing opinion, especially with all the "double oaked" fans in this thread. I just don't like the stuff. I could buy a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 for half the price and be twice as happy.
The Larceny and the Bulleit, in my opinion, were almost indistinguishable, despite the 2% alcohol difference. Maybe it's just the fact that all that alcohol burns out my tongueI am better at flavor picking beer than whiskey. They were both nicely warm from the rye, and I could easily see myself drinking more than a few. Just hot enough to keep you interested without making you regret a sip. If you're gonna buy Bulleit, by the way, I say save yourself the money and buy their regular offerings instead of the 10/15 year. You'll hardly notice a difference except in the priceeven their founder says that the high-rye whiskeys like his don't benefit very much beyond an 8-year aging.
The ETL was close in profile to the last two, and it also features a high-rye mash. It was my favorite bottle going into the tasting, but it's pretty hard to pick blind. It was slightly sweeter, and slightly more mild than the other two. But its finish was a little astringent for me, I guess. If you get to know the bottle, it's beautiful stuff. Lined up shot-for-shot, however, and the no-nonsense of the Bulleit and Larceny pulled a slight lead for me.
The Woodford and the ETL are both single barrel offerings, though, so they might have a little variation from bottle to bottle. I highly recommend the experiment of blind testing a few glasses to see how your expectations match reality. If you can't afford it yourself, hopefully you can find a couple friends.
I recently got a few friends together for a blind bourbon tasting (which turned into more of a whiskey drinking as the night went on, but I digress...)
I brought Elmer T. Lee (a commemorative single barrel offering from Buffalo Trace, I recommend it if you can find it), my buddies brought over Larceny, Bulleit Bourbon, and Woodford Reserve.
I've always been more of a high-rye-kinda-guy, and the ETL, Bulleit, and Larceny all fit that description. Past memories of Woodford were always a little sweet for me. Nothing here was the really top-shelf, wheated, age-for-beyond-15-year kind of stuff, but we're recent graduates and I'm fine with that.
Anyway, tasting blind, only one of the whiskeys really stood far apart from the others (and not in a good way.) The Larceny stood at 94 proof, whereas everything else was 90, so I thought it might be that. Wrong. With a distinctly medicinal note, slight astringency, and the only rating of "I just don't like this" of the four, was Woodford. I know that's probably a polarizing opinion, especially with all the "double oaked" fans in this thread. I just don't like the stuff. I could buy a bottle of Wild Turkey 101 for half the price and be twice as happy.
The Larceny and the Bulleit, in my opinion, were almost indistinguishable, despite the 2% alcohol difference. Maybe it's just the fact that all that alcohol burns out my tongue—I am better at flavor picking beer than whiskey. They were both nicely warm from the rye, and I could easily see myself drinking more than a few. Just hot enough to keep you interested without making you regret a sip. If you're gonna buy Bulleit, by the way, I say save yourself the money and buy their regular offerings instead of the 10/15 year. You'll hardly notice a difference except in the price—even their founder says that the high-rye whiskeys like his don't benefit very much beyond an 8-year aging.
The ETL was close in profile to the last two, and it also features a high-rye mash. It was my favorite bottle going into the tasting, but it's pretty hard to pick blind. It was slightly sweeter, and slightly more mild than the other two. But its finish was a little astringent for me, I guess. If you get to know the bottle, it's beautiful stuff. Lined up shot-for-shot, however, and the no-nonsense of the Bulleit and Larceny pulled a slight lead for me.
The Woodford and the ETL are both single barrel offerings, though, so they might have a little variation from bottle to bottle. I highly recommend the experiment of blind testing a few glasses to see how your expectations match reality. If you can't afford it yourself, hopefully you can find a couple friends.
But it's just that. I think it comes down to personal taste. I imagine that you and your friends didn't see eye to eye on all the whiskies you tried either.
You're exactly right. I just meant to convey my impressions from the evening. Hell, not only didn't I see eye-to-eye with all of my friends, I might not even see eye-to-eye with myself if I tried it again.
It may be the Louisiana redneck in me, but my go to is Wild Turkey 101. This may borderline illegal but a bourbon & coke made with George C. Stagg & a Mexican coke is probably the best mixed drink I've ever had.
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