Bottle sanitation. Whats safe?

[IslandLizard]

Rinsed well and let to dry.

Why rinsing after boiling?
The boiling (or very hot) water would have sanitized them quite well.

If there is a small amount of moisture in the bottles is that ok?

Probably OK...
Just drain as much out as you can before filling.

 

[Jeroen79]

I know he's in Portugal, yes.
Is rinsing Starsan the "norm" there, really?
How about Iodophor?

Yes rinsing is the norm these days, they took it off the shelves a while ago, but now it it back but the new packaging states it needs to be rinsed.

There some more info here

No idea about Iodophor , its not readably available to the home brewer here.

 

[hotbeer]

Don't need to wait for the bottles to dry. Just need to let them cool down enough to be handled if you boil them to sanitize them. Once you turn them upside down, any remaining water is insignificant.

Waiting for them to dry, which in my humidity might take days when upside down, the air currents might carry dust with yeast and other microbes into the bottles.

 

[IslandLizard]

No idea about Iodophor , its not readably available to the home brewer here.

I meant Iodine (Povidone) based sanitizers, generally. Technically they're all Iodophors.

Medical Definition of a Iodophor:
A complex of iodine and a surface-active agent that releases iodine gradually and serves as a disinfectant.

Re: Starsan

Yes rinsing is the norm these days, they took it off the shelves a while ago, but now it it back but the new packaging states it needs to be rinsed.

:wow:

 

[Bagarge]

Why rinsing after boiling?
The boiling (or very hot) water would have sanitized them quite well.


Probably OK...
Just drain as much out as you can before filling.

I mean i rinsed them in the boiling water shaking it out vigorously…

Cooled down quick enough. All bottled now and the pilsner is in the hands of god

 

[DuncB]

Dishwasher on the medical cycle is an option as bottling imminent.
But many use this as their sanitising phase.

 

[jerrylotto]

I sanitize my bottles in the oven at 350F. It has the added value of drying them thoroughly after cleaning them. If there is residue to remove, that is a part of the bottle cleaning step and I've often had to resort to a bottle brush although I'm sure there are expensive or complicated chemical treatments that would do the job also. I prime each of the cooled, sanitized bottles with 5 ml of sugar solution which I make by dissolving the appropriate amount of priming sugar (1 tsp / bottle typically) in boiling water to make each tsp 5 ml. Since I rarely bottle more than a couple of six packs and keg the rest of each batch, this has worked out to be the simplest process since I force carb the keg after I fill the bottles.

 

[jerrylotto]

No idea about Iodophor , its not readably available to the home brewer here.

I bought a gallon of Five Star IO-Star sanitizer and make up a solution with 10 ml in 1 gal of water as my liquid sanitizer. 3 years later and it is only about 1/2 gone.

 

[IslandLizard]

Dishwasher on the medical cycle

Hah! Haven't seen those around yet.

The next step could be to pressurize them...

 

[Rish]

I rinse my bottles shortly after emptying, put in a 6 pack carton then when I have time I cover the opening of the bottles with a 2X2 piece of aluminum foil. When I have an oven full, I put them in a cold oven, set the temp for 180°F, hold there for 20 minutes, turn it off then let the oven cool down, usually overnight. I do this as I go so I have bottles ready to go and don't have to worry about prepping them on bottling days.

 

[Deadalus]

You could use bleach to sanitize, unscented. I'm not sure about the splashless bleaches. There's a method that involves vinegar for a no rinse method. Years ago I used just bleach with a rinse with hot water afterwards. Contact time is important from what I remember too, like an hour maybe?

@Bagarge Do you have a bottle washer? Three passes with one of these gets nearly everythingout. Once in a while a little speck of something will be dried up and stuck, so hold up to the light and check afterwards. *This picture does not show the necesssary gasket.

 

[mashdar]

+1 for dishwasher sanitize setting, if you have one. It saves me at least an hour when bottling. Set it going and come back a couple hours later.

I fill bottles above the open dishwasher door. Easy cleanup!

 

[DuncB]

Hah! Haven't seen those around yet.

The next step could be to pressurize them...

I don't have mine work in a vacuum!!
So they all are under pressure.

 

[Shropshire Lad]

It won’t do any harm and the minuscule amount of residue left after rinsing won’t affect the taste.
Sodium meta-bisulphate which is commonly used(for example by me) is fine if one isn’t allergic to sulphites. These can cause rashes and breathing difficulties.
You will find these links helpful which includes previous discussions on here:
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[ncbrewer]

I've tried many methods of bottle cleaning. I was never completely satisfied until I tried a Papazian method. He wrote about cleaning carboys with 2 oz bleach in 5 gallons of water, with an overnight soak. I use this bleach concentration, but scaled down for just the bottles I am cleaning (one session of beer bottles) - still an overnight soak. Hot water rinse the next day with a jet washer. It cleans better than anything else I've tried - spotless and no film. Then on bottling day, I spray one bottle with star san using a vinator, while I'm filling the previous bottle - very little extra time involved. I think the bleach actually sanitizes the bottles, but I give them a shot of Star San to kill anything that may have gotten into them while waiting for bottling day.

 

[Keever Vincent]

Would you recommend starsan as the number one for sterilisation? I have seen its very common for brewers to use.
Is it a no rinse product? If so i will order a bucket load of it for the amount of time it will save me

I used a bucket for years until I realized I only need to soak the item that needs to be clean and have switched to a spray bottle it makes your sanitizer go a lot longer 5 squirt's per bottle with 20oz 3 for 12oz squirt the inside turn them up squirt the outside then bottle away