Boston area thread

[rwitter]

My man thing was I saw it as a cash grab. They put money into a new brewery and all this expansion and then pivot towards cans after a few months? The mobile line is something I would never trust really from a QC stand point. Wouldn't trust the Brewers who used it before me and the DO on it is probably insane. In the end it effects me none but I was drunk and I tweeted which often has mix results.

 

[Auror]

My man thing was I saw it as a cash grab. They put money into a new brewery and all this expansion and then pivot towards cans after a few months? The mobile line is something I would never trust really from a QC stand point. Wouldn't trust the Brewers who used it before me and the DO on it is probably insane. In the end it effects me none but I was drunk and I tweeted which often has mix results.

Wouldn't people that can professionally (and have experience in a lot of different situations and systems) get pretty good about minimizing DO? The mobile can people are the ones doing the canning, not each brewer, although there's certainly interfacing going on.

 

[rwitter]

https://thornbridge.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/brewery-news-2016/

Really good read. In the end it is on the equipment. Cans can never get lower then bottles for do. The mobile units are not even gonna be close as restrictioms on what can actually be moved around for canning.

 

[wdarcy77]

https://thornbridge.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/brewery-news-2016/

Really good read. In the end it is on the equipment. Cans can never get lower then bottles for do. The mobile units are not even gonna be close as restrictioms on what can actually be moved around for canning.

Out of curiosity, which type of canning unit was On Fleek filled on?

 

[Auror]

https://thornbridge.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/brewery-news-2016/

Really good read. In the end it is on the equipment. Cans can never get lower then bottles for do. The mobile units are not even gonna be close as restrictioms on what can actually be moved around for canning.

Thanks for the link, very informative. What they say comes directly at odds with what some of the canning line companies advertise. Cask Brewing Systems, for example, claims they get down to 15-20 ppb DO. Do you think they're exaggerating their claims?

 

[rwitter]

Out of curiosity, which type of canning unit was On Fleek filled on?

Whatever 2 roads has. I would say an imperial stout vs an iPa or iipa is a big difference in the importance of DO.

 

[rwitter]

Thanks for the link, very informative. What they say comes directly at odds with what some of the canning line companies advertise. Cask Brewing Systems, for example, claims they get down to 15-20 ppb DO. Do you think they're exaggerating their claims?

I'd simply ask em to show it. It would also depend on the do in the beer before packaging. If the beer is already over 15 then no go on those numbers.

 

[tehzachatak]

My man thing was I saw it as a cash grab. They put money into a new brewery and all this expansion and then pivot towards cans after a few months? The mobile line is something I would never trust really from a QC stand point. Wouldn't trust the Brewers who used it before me and the DO on it is probably insane. In the end it effects me none but I was drunk and I tweeted which often has mix results.

I feel ya, but it's cheaper to my wallet (pretty large price per oz decrease over current formats) so as a consumer, whether it's a cash grab for them or not doesn't really bother me until it affects me in a non-price manner.

I would imagine it will be pretty noticeable if the quality of beer is worse; and knowing JC's relatively militant feelings about oxygen in IPAs in general, I would be surprised if he's willing to do this if it has real quality effects. I, of course, have no data, but based on everything JC's ever said, I would imagine that the DO in their beer before packing is about as low as it gets in the industry. I am not a brewer, so maybe I'm totally wrong.

 

[rwitter]

Id love to hear what it was before and after bottling. The meheens are not good in the way of do.

 

[tehzachatak]

Id love to hear what it was before and after bottling. The meheens are not good in the way of do.

jctetreault ?

 

[Auror]

My man thing was I saw it as a cash grab. They put money into a new brewery and all this expansion and then pivot towards cans after a few months? The mobile line is something I would never trust really from a QC stand point. Wouldn't trust the Brewers who used it before me and the DO on it is probably insane. In the end it effects me none but I was drunk and I tweeted which often has mix results.

"Unlike its traditional arrangements with smaller breweries, where the company will set up and break down a canning line assembly in the same day, Iron Heart will permanently leave one of its eight Wild Goose canning lines at Trillium in an effort to more efficiently meet the brewery’s volume demands."

http://www.brewbound.com/news/growing-nearly-400-percent-trillium-transitions-cans

Very interesting. That arrangement would alleviate some of the concerns, at least about mobile canning, if not canning in general.

 

[GuzzleMcBrew]

"Unlike its traditional arrangements with smaller breweries, where the company will set up and break down a canning line assembly in the same day, Iron Heart will permanently leave one of its eight Wild Goose canning lines at Trillium in an effort to more efficiently meet the brewery’s volume demands."

http://www.brewbound.com/news/growing-nearly-400-percent-trillium-transitions-cans

Very interesting. That arrangement would alleviate some of the concerns, at least about mobile canning, if not canning in general.

What a fascinating model. Long term contract canning on-site.

My $.02 about the Trillium canning; Trillium is taking a big chance and the customers are reaping the benefits. They are taking the risk that if they only sell the same volume of product, at a lower sales price and with new overhead from the canning process, they will take a loss (comparatively speaking). The risk also provides for the opportunity to sell a billion cans, which they likely will.

As customers, we get beer at a fraction of the price ($.269 an oz for Congress St cans vs $.396 an oz for Bottles). We get individual packaged, portable beers. Oh, and hell **** yeah I am stoked about some DDH Melcher cans for a hike or some Disc Golf.

I see little distinction between what Tree House does with their Wild Goose and what Trillium will be doing with an essentially leased Wild Goose canning line. Tree House cans are legit and last well. I think this will be a win-win. I don't foresee them eschewing their general branding, since JC's buddy does the designs and all.

 

[CoinStarChange]

"Unlike its traditional arrangements with smaller breweries, where the company will set up and break down a canning line assembly in the same day, Iron Heart will permanently leave one of its eight Wild Goose canning lines at Trillium in an effort to more efficiently meet the brewery’s volume demands."

http://www.brewbound.com/news/growing-nearly-400-percent-trillium-transitions-cans

Very interesting. That arrangement would alleviate some of the concerns, at least about mobile canning, if not canning in general.

Well that settles that.

 

[rwitter]

Well if anyone is headed to Greensboro in the next 2 weeks I would love the chance to try some and happy to reimburse for the pick up.

 

[Don2]

Well if anyone is headed to Greensboro in the next 2 weeks I would love the chance to try some and happy to reimburse for the pick up.

Ryan I'll be up there July 14th I can bring up whatever you want

 

[lambandtunaphish]

How much were bottles of Launch Beer? $13 for a 4pack of cans must be a pretty big price cut if they were $8.

Edit - they were probably $7, since that's what a 32oz growler is now? So not as big of a cut as I thought, but still way cheaper per oz.

 

[Don2]

How much were bottles of Launch Beer? $13 for a 4pack of cans must be a pretty big price cut if they were $8.

Edit - they were probably $7, since that's what a 32oz growler is now? So not as big of a cut as I thought, but still way cheaper per oz.

Fort point bottles were $8 I don't imagine launch beer was less?

 

[tehzachatak]

They were 8, I'm pretty certain. I'm not sure if there's ever been a trillium bottle under 8?

 

[KevinC1]

They were 8, I'm pretty certain. I'm not sure if there's ever been a trillium bottle under 8?

Never anything under $8, unless it was way early on.

 

[bearsonacid1]

The growler pricing was just changed to $7 like the street IPAs were after cans came out

 

[JGlitz87]

I am flying in for a Bachelor Party Friday morning and was planning on hitting Trillium to get supplies. I know in the past there is more or less no line to speak of at the Fort Point location. Has them canning things changed that? The rest of the guys are not huge beer people, and so they will likely not want to wait in line to buy beer.

 

[Auror]

I went on Friday around 5-6pm and there was no line.

 

[bearsonacid1]

I am flying in for a Bachelor Party Friday morning and was planning on hitting Trillium to get supplies. I know in the past there is more or less no line to speak of at the Fort Point location. Has them canning things changed that? The rest of the guys are not huge beer people, and so they will likely not want to wait in line to buy beer.

There's been lines before opening but they go super quick. Go at 1 or later if you don't want to wait at all.

Only variables here are that it was a holiday week when they decided to can and how much of a supply they have. They send a smaller, fixed amount to the FP location

 

[FoudreGuy]

Pretty much this. Not to mention that these cans will be hitting distribution once the initial novelty wears out. I was able to purchase bottles of Congress St., Vicinity and DDFP in ******* Westford of all places. With the added expansion of Treehouse in the near future, things are looking very bright.

Is retail distribution on hold again? They recently started sending bottles out to stores on a steady basis, and now with the move to canning I'm guessing that's stopped. Bummer.

 

[richiesd]

Quick question... Flying into Boston tomorrow (actually I'm staying in Andover). I won't be able to check anything on the way there but I was wondering if there was a place I could buy styro 12 bottle shippers to bring back some bottles with? Does UHaul only sell the pulp lay flat style shippers now? In San Diego that's what they carry now

Or can I buy one off one of you guys?

 

[HevvyMetalHippie]

Quick question... Flying into Boston tomorrow (actually I'm staying in Andover). I won't be able to check anything on the way there but I was wondering if there was a place I could buy styro 12 bottle shippers to bring back some bottles with? Does UHaul only sell the pulp lay flat style shippers now? In San Diego that's what they carry now

Or can I buy one off one of you guys?

I've never been able to buy 12 bottle shippers in person anywhere. I usually go to Home Depot and get a heavy duty box and some bubble wrap. #BostonSucks

 

[jdd419]

Quick question... Flying into Boston tomorrow (actually I'm staying in Andover). I won't be able to check anything on the way there but I was wondering if there was a place I could buy styro 12 bottle shippers to bring back some bottles with? Does UHaul only sell the pulp lay flat style shippers now? In San Diego that's what they carry now

Or can I buy one off one of you guys?

I had a 12 bottle shipper sent to my hotel from uhaul.com. it was $11 and got there in 3 days. Might not help you this time but you can always call the hotel and let them know a package will be arriving for you (even before your stay).

 

[tehzachatak]

I've never been able to buy 12 bottle shippers in person anywhere. I usually go to Home Depot and get a heavy duty box and some bubble wrap. #BostonSucks

I saw styros in U-Haul Medford when I was in there last week. First time I've ever seen them in a store in the Boston area. I think they only had 3 and 6 shippers tho, no 12s. I have also heard Redstone Liquors has them if you ask for them, but can't confirm that.

 

[bearsonacid1]

Quick question... Flying into Boston tomorrow (actually I'm staying in Andover). I won't be able to check anything on the way there but I was wondering if there was a place I could buy styro 12 bottle shippers to bring back some bottles with? Does UHaul only sell the pulp lay flat style shippers now? In San Diego that's what they carry now

Or can I buy one off one of you guys?

I was at seaport storage last week which is also a u-haul rental place https://goo.gl/maps/RgQmqUo3MTS2 (about a mile from Trillium). I saw they at least had one styro-shipper on a shelf there and a bunch of single bottle boxes. It might've been a 12; probably want to call first.

 

[Ziggy]

My gf and sister surprised me a weekend trip to boston for my birthday. Whoohoo!

Gonna eat and drink my way thru the town.

Anyone recommend good seafood spots that won't break the bank?