Beer snobs SUCK!!! (rant)

[carnevoodoo]

Didn't any of you go to a party and get completly trashed on the cheapest worst tasting stuff on the planet?

Yeah. I was 22 once. We all were.

I would much rather have a bottle of Goose Island Bourbon Stout than 10 cases of any of that cheap crap.

It comes down to what my palate will tolerate and why I am drinking. I am not drinking to get hammered. I drink because I love beer. Good beer. I am not an ******* because I say no to a beer I don't want, even if people will perceive it that way. I don't care.

Oh, and Shock Top is boring and uninspired crap. Yes, I've tried it. No, I won't drink it again. I'd much rather have an Avery White Rascal, an Allagash White, or even a Hoegaarden (OMG, it is made by a giant corporation!)

 

[Krypticklown]

I like Sam Adams, I've got a variety pack in the cooler as we speak.

Everyone's tastes are different - but who are we to judge the person who has the balls to try something and say without shame, "I like this". Most of my friends are happy with a Budlight, I don't make fun of them, I buy them a Budlight; it's their tastes, not mine. Based on that they will try any random beer with me that I like that they've never heard of.

I have a dream! I have a dream that one day beer drinkers can stand hand to hand with their brothers and not see labels in their eyes, and love each other for their differences! Can I get an Amen!

 

[BierMuncher]

I would much rather have a bottle of Goose Island Bourbon Stout than 10 cases of any of that cheap crap.

That's an incredible beer experience. But at $18 for a 4-pack? It's a rare experience.

 

[ewbish]

I couldn't agree with you more. I was going to put up a similar post but you beat me to it.

I'll take it a step further. For all of you beer snobs who put down the big brewers or BMC as it tends to be called.

Didn't any of you go to a party and get completly trashed on the cheapest worst tasting stuff on the planet? If you didn't then you suck. These beers have a home in my heart that is very dear. I cannot tell you how many cans of Keystone Light I drank in college and to be honest it was some of the best times of my life. Imagine if I beer-snobbed it up and said " I won't touch that swill!!" I'd be sitting at home complaining how I am the only one with taste. (and not getting laid that night on top of it)

I'll be honest. I like miller lite. Oh my god I said it! Yes there are good reasons to drink a light beer from a brewery. There are occasions where I may want to have multiple beers and I don't know if I can stomach an entire case of some hop crazy IPA and my stomach will beg me to put something a little lighter in it.

Also, any of you would kill to have a Sam Adams style brewery. He started that thing in his kitchen think about it.

I would like to hear from anyone who has funny cheap ass beer stories for this post. That'll shut up the beer snobs.

Ahhh, the good old days.

So, here's a cheap ass beer story for you:

The year is 1987. I was a young, 18 yr old private stationed at DLI on the Presidio of Monterey. Friday night, it's time for a beer run so we pooled our cash. Well, none of us had a car, but one of the guys had a motorcycle, so I hopped (har!) on back and we headed to Safeway. We have enough money for 5 suitcases of Bud, which we promptly bought. We got out to the parking lot and realized that 5 24pks of Bud may not have been the wisest choice. Being young, highly motivated soldiers, we were determined to overcome the minor obstacle of 2 people, a bike, and 5 cases of beer. We bungied one on the back fender, then my buddy stacked two on my lap, and I had one in each hand, and used my knees to balance the stack. After getting me situated, he carefully climbed on in front of and got the bike off the kick stand. At this point, we were starting to draw a crowd........many people were laughing and pointing. I should point out, this was not a dresser or big cruiser, and the bike struggled two-up, before adding 5 cases of beer.

I'm sure by now you can guess what happens..........just as we turn into the main gate of DLI, a catastrophic weight shift occured during the apex of the turn..........thus causing us to lay the bike down. I swear, all 5 of those cases burst........beer cans were everywhere. It looked like a brewery truck rolled over. We get the bike off to the side, but our beer is everywhere. Traffic is flowing at a typical california rate, and we're watching with dismay as many of our cans of beer are being ran over. My buddy runs into the intersection, and stands at parade rest with his right hand extended straight in front of him, like some kind of traffic cop. Traffic comes to a halt, so I'm in this intersection grabbin' beers as fast as I can.......like some kind of mad easter egg hunt. I'm stuffin' 'em in the remnants of the cases, my pockets, down my pants, in my shirt.......you name it. I think we recovered about 2 1/2 cases of that beer before we heard sirens, that being the signal to take what we had and get. You should have seen the looks on peoples faces when we got back to the barracks, and out came this pile of smashed, dented, leaking, and well shaken stash of bud.

We thouroughly enjoyed that brew.....especially looking out the 2nd floor dayroom windows and watching a bunch of MP cars cruising the bike parking lot and shining spot lights on all the bikes.......while my buddy's was safely stowed under a blanket in the stairwell.

 

[carnevoodoo]

That's an incredible beer experience. But at $18 for a 4-pack? It's a rare experience.

Yeah, I only bought two four packs. Good thing I got three more bottles of Abyss to keep my dark beer section stocked.

 

[donshizzles]

I am a total beer snob. I don't drink cheap beer, and I mostly drink local when I have the choice, unless I want something Belgian. I don't like Sam Adams products, but I have to say that as a company they are NOWHERE near the big conglomerates. They still hold a homebrew competition, they sell hops to microbrewers, and they stay dedicated to a craft of brewing. Sure, their beer is more tailored for the mainstream drinker, but they are an awesome company.

I like Sierra Nevada for everything they do as well. I would rather be drinking other beer, but I won't refuse theirs like I would a bud or even a Boston Lager.

The craft beer scene is really ****ing stupid right now. The beer advocate/rate beer type are idiots and they are starting to make beer more a competition and sport than a fun, leisure activity. I LOVE beer. I appreciate that we need Sam Adams-like companies. I am a snob. I am just sick of how seriously people take themselves.

+1 People need to friggin relax a bit. I mean it just seems like there are more and more uptight dbags nowadays who will bag on EVERYTHING. I'm not a fan of BMC but I'm not going around acting like a tool slamming them either. I just don't drink it. Its my choice and I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT about it. Some folks might want to try that little exercise sometime. Nobody cares if you don't like they way Sam or SN or AB or whoever makes their beer. Just don't drink it and move on.

 

[ArcaneXor]

I was talking to someone the other day and he told me that he felt that Sam Adams is just one step up from BMC.

I would agree with that assessment. It's a significant step (although there are several InBev beers that I think are excellent), but the next step nonetheless on my scale. What would you say belongs in between BMC and, for instance, Stone, Bells and the trappist beers?

EDIT: I don't even mind BMC that much. Sure, I'll poke fun at them occasionally, and I rarely buy them, but I don't mind drinking many of their products, either. They have their place.

 

[PavlovsCat]

Dunkin Donuts coffee is way better than Starbucks, SN makes one BAD ASS Celebration Ale, Sammy has some good beers now and again (although I'm not a fan of the usual year-round lineup).

I drink what I like, and hell, I'll take a High Life every now and again even though I'll still rag on BMC. I won't drink Bud Light though, man that stuff is nasty.

LOVE Dunkin Donuts coffee. And you can get an all-american donut to go with it, instead of a scone! There's a Starbucks in my building at work, but I will go out of my way, risk being late for a DD. Also if they have it where you live, try Indigo coffee - Also way better than SB, IMHO.

 

[gunhaver]

The last guy told me that Dogfish Head has no idea what they are doing and are not a real brewery. Hahahahahahahaha what a moron!!!

how is this guy a beer snob? he just sounds like an idiot. no one who actually likes craft beer would say this. unless they meant that DFH tends to go nuts with ingredients and styles, and that a lot of their beers lose their drinkability because of that, which is certainly a reasonable argument, and more likely what you actually heard.

actually i bet most of what you heard in this conversation is what you wanted to hear.

although Red Hook does actually suck

 

[carnevoodoo]

although Red Hook does actually suck

How are they still a brewery?

 

[Donner]

although Red Hook does actually suck

Meh. I like red hook, or at least the ESB and Longhammer that i've had. We don't have many options here in Mississippi, but again, i like it.

That said, the Stone beer i had tasted like crap. To each their own i guess.

 

[MikeG]

I love the SA! I always look forward to the Winter Lager and always buy a 12-pack when I'm out and it's available. I have been buying Sweetwater 420, a local ale but more often than not a SA is not too difficult to purchase out and about at any restaurant. Course if you ask for a glass that is not chilled they seem to always bring out a one that is pretty warm directly from the dishwasher .

 

[BrewBrain]

Ok, I do have to admit I have my monents:

When I'm at BEVMO and some dude walks up to the counter with a 12-pack of Coors light and only a 12-pack of Coors light, I kinda want to kick his balls in a little bit.

I don't think that's snobbery though, right? That's just teaching.

 

[Kronin]

1. Never insult another man's brewery
2. Never insult another man's choice in beer.

That is all.

very true. I agree.

Oh and never drink a beer off someone elses table..... a table full of rugby players. seriously. :cross:

 

[IowaHarry]

I see snobs everywhere...and they don't even know they are snobs.

 

[BierMuncher]

Ahhh, the good old days....

You know with great stories like that I'd think you'd have more than 40(ish) posts in nearly a year.


These days ya gotta love an anti-post-whore. :rockin:

 

[Hikeon3]

We're talking about beer here, gentlemen. And no beer is unworthy of the educated palate.

I frequent O'Brien's. The very pinnacle of beer snobbery in Southern Cal. Am I always in the mood for the latest 12%abv Belgian or the 500 IBU IIPA on tap? No. Nobody is. It's impossible.

I also frequent O'Harley's, a pool pub in northern San Diego. I shoot snooker and drink Blue Moon, Guinness, Sierra Nevada, even the occasional Bud Light or Miller Lite. It's refreshing and to be appreciated for what it is. A beer that refuses to take itself too seriously. And some of us sometimes need to follow suit.

Here's to beer. The beverage that reminds us how great life is.

 

[gunhaver]

O'Briens is a rad little laidback joint, not really that snobby to me

 

[dontman]

Roast your own or buy fresh from a local roaster, then we'll talk. :rockin:

I (obviously, as a professional coffee roaster) have to second this opinion. Like freshly baked bread, no matter how coffee is stored it will only remain fresh for 2 to, at most, three weeks. After that all of its volatile aromatics have oxidized and its oils have begun to go rancid.

It is impossible to roast 40,000 lbs, package it, and get it to outlets in less than one month. The usual turnaround is three months. Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts will serve their coffee in their shops as old as four months and sell it retail up to 13 months.

I will only drink coffee that is fresh and ground and brewed properly. Does that make me a coffee snob?

As far as the sentiment of the OP. Edit: Nevermind. I realized from reading another post that I don't like beer snobs either. People who judge other people for buying BMC or for enjoying whatever beverage they enjoy. That is just wrong on many levels.

 

[aliu630]

Sam Adams Boston Lager is my beer of choice when I go to Casino to gamble . I got some of my friends who used to drink BMC into a bigger variety of beers and now they like to talk smack about BMC and ocassionally Sam Adams which gets on my nerves. I just tell em there's a time and a place for every beer and ignore them for a bit till the subject changes

 

[Pelikan]

I like good things. Good beer, good wine, good coffee, and good cars. If people want to rail on me for that, it's their own insecurity bubbling to the surface. I'm never confrontational about my personal choices. Indeed, I feel sorry for people that prefer BMC over better beers -- I don't loath them.

With that in mind...

 

[nosmatt]

when the best there there is, "S.A.B.L.", i drink it like it is the best beer evar!

not that it is **** beer, nah, actually it's decent beer. it's just not even close to a quafable beer like SNPA, which is just good beer, not excellent mind you, but good, but the masses do not know any better!

try to hand me a qweers, or a bud?
wtf???????

gimme a coke, or pepsi.
no, really. i wont touch that ****.
a snob i might be, but a pepsi that tastes good, is a hellova lot cheaper than a queerz that tastes like ****.

im out.

 

[z987k]

I really do like a lot of unknowns because they come out with something unique that excites that palate. I cannot drink the same beer all the time. I get tired of it, no matter how good it is. Further I won't buy a beer at a store unless it's truly exceptional. I have plenty of experimental brews that turned out mediocre at home, don't have to buy that...
The exception of course being at a bar or restaurant and wanting a beer. Then I'll have whatever.

 

[flyangler18]

It is impossible to roast 40,000 lbs, package it, and get it to outlets in less than one month. The usual turnaround is three months. Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts will serve their coffee in their shops as old as four months and sell it retail up to 13 months.

My issue with Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts is not so much the time that the coffee sits, but the roast itself. Starbucks especially roasts their beans so bloody dark that the predominate taste is bitter, burnt, acrid and unpleasant. Of course as soon as I finish typing this, I'm off to 'that place' to get my wife her grande peppermint non-fat mocha because she likes them.

Me- I'll take my French Press and home-roasted Ethiopian Harrar.

As I mentioned earlier, I refuse to judge anyone based on their choice of beer; life too short for such trivialities. I occasionally check out the reviews on Beer Advocate if a beer's flavor profile has me at a loss for a certain descriptor. A reviewer may have articulated it clearly and helped me identify just what it was that I was tasting. That said, there's an awful lot of d!ck-swinging among 'beer people' that I just can't abide.

Some more commments,
Jason

 

[histo320]

I really do like a lot of unknowns because they come out with something unique that excites that palate. I cannot drink the same beer all the time. I get tired of it, no matter how good it is. Further I won't buy a beer at a store unless it's truly exceptional. I have plenty of experimental brews that turned out mediocre at home, don't have to buy that...
The exception of course being at a bar or restaurant and wanting a beer. Then I'll have whatever.

I agree completely my hometown friend.

I always give my friends a hard time when they drink BMC but I am drinking it right there with them. I just down them a bit faster. In college all I drank was Busch Light, Bud Light, and Coors Light, I really enjoyed them. I still do on occasion.

All in all, a great bartender once told me, "You drink what you like, you like IPA's, have one, you like Light beer, have one, only you are the judge." There is a lot of truth in that right there. A beer may win all kinds of competition but your palate is not the same as the tasters, we all have different tastes just accept it and don't complain.

 

[gunhaver]

I really do like a lot of unknowns because they come out with something unique that excites that palate. I cannot drink the same beer all the time. I get tired of it, no matter how good it is. Further I won't buy a beer at a store unless it's truly exceptional. I have plenty of experimental brews that turned out mediocre at home, don't have to buy that...
The exception of course being at a bar or restaurant and wanting a beer. Then I'll have whatever.

agreed. whether you're drinking nothing but Bud Lite or nothing but Snobby Brewery Eisbock, you're still not really branching out that much. i rarely buy the same beer twice, and if i do, it's for the intention of cellaring some bottles and popping them down the road when my palate has forgotten all about em. it's why i don't plan to ever brew the same beer twice, unless i'm doing a competition or something along those lines

 

[Hawgbranch]

Ahhh, the good old days.

So, here's a cheap ass beer story for you:

The year is 1987. I was a young, 18 yr old private stationed at DLI on the Presidio of Monterey. Friday night, it's time for a beer run so we pooled our cash. Well, none of us had a car, but one of the guys had a motorcycle, so I hopped (har!) on back and we headed to Safeway. We have enough money for 5 suitcases of Bud, which we promptly bought. We got out to the parking lot and realized that 5 24pks of Bud may not have been the wisest choice. Being young, highly motivated soldiers, we were determined to overcome the minor obstacle of 2 people, a bike, and 5 cases of beer. We bungied one on the back fender, then my buddy stacked two on my lap, and I had one in each hand, and used my knees to balance the stack. After getting me situated, he carefully climbed on in front of and got the bike off the kick stand. At this point, we were starting to draw a crowd........many people were laughing and pointing. I should point out, this was not a dresser or big cruiser, and the bike struggled two-up, before adding 5 cases of beer.

I'm sure by now you can guess what happens..........just as we turn into the main gate of DLI, a catastrophic weight shift occured during the apex of the turn..........thus causing us to lay the bike down. I swear, all 5 of those cases burst........beer cans were everywhere. It looked like a brewery truck rolled over. We get the bike off to the side, but our beer is everywhere. Traffic is flowing at a typical california rate, and we're watching with dismay as many of our cans of beer are being ran over. My buddy runs into the intersection, and stands at parade rest with his right hand extended straight in front of him, like some kind of traffic cop. Traffic comes to a halt, so I'm in this intersection grabbin' beers as fast as I can.......like some kind of mad easter egg hunt. I'm stuffin' 'em in the remnants of the cases, my pockets, down my pants, in my shirt.......you name it. I think we recovered about 2 1/2 cases of that beer before we heard sirens, that being the signal to take what we had and get. You should have seen the looks on peoples faces when we got back to the barracks, and out came this pile of smashed, dented, leaking, and well shaken stash of bud.

We thouroughly enjoyed that brew.....especially looking out the 2nd floor dayroom windows and watching a bunch of MP cars cruising the bike parking lot and shining spot lights on all the bikes.......while my buddy's was safely stowed under a blanket in the stairwell.

That Safeway must have been in Pacific Grove. No way you tried to climb that hill from Monterey. I spent a year there myself. Charlie Co./98G-RU.
I was there in 91-92 and a nice British couple opened the London Bridge Pub underneath Tony Roma's in Monterey. The "Round the World" competition they had exposed me to the beer I love today.
There was also the infamous "Rose & Crown".
I miss Monterey and the "Defense Love Institute"

 

[Endovelico]

To be honest, you're probably a "beer snob" in relation to most guys outside. The Irony here is that most people dont like to be talked down on, but do the same themselves in relation to most macro-lagers.

I've seen this happen in this forum countless times and it and its just as wrong. Its objectifying taste.

 

[Endovelico]

I like good things. Good beer, good wine, good coffee, and good cars. If people want to rail on me for that, it's their own insecurity bubbling to the surface. I'm never confrontational about my personal choices. Indeed, I feel sorry for people that prefer BMC over better beers -- I don't loath them.

With that in mind...

YouTube - south park smug farts

Like this guy.

 

[ewbish]

That Safeway must have been in Pacific Grove. No way you tried to climb that hill from Monterey. I spent a year there myself. Charlie Co./98G-RU.
I was there in 91-92 and a nice British couple opened the London Bridge Pub underneath Tony Roma's in Monterey. The "Round the World" competition they had exposed me to the beer I love today.
There was also the infamous "Rose & Crown".
I miss Monterey and the "Defense Love Institute"

Dude!!! We had to have known each other! I was there the first time in '87 for Czech as a young private, went to Ft Drum, then came back as a SGT as a reclass to RU after the wall came down. I was in C co as a 98G RU from '91 to '92 as well!