Beer People are Annoying

[retheisen]

"Most people are annoying..." Sounds like a great title for a blog.

 

[DromJohn]

1) Beer Review Generator meets Peter Gammons Generator:
Pours a vivid greyish-green with a soft, pillowy head. Amazing lacing. Beautiful hoppy nose, with notes of citrus and molasses. Heavy esthery flavor, and I also get some shoe leather and old newsprint. Chalky mouthfeel and disappointing finish. And Mike Crud Ale. Score: 4.22/5.

2) The key to reviewers is to test them, then look for the reviewers you agree with/understand. I've learned not to trust RB, but BA is pretty good. I have to downgrade for IBU, ABV and whiskey, but if beers have similar IBU or ABV, or both have been oaked, then I like the BA ratings. And I trust The Brothers. Zymurgy, not so much. YMMV.
I also trust some waiters/bartenders. Brick Store Pub gets to surprise me sometimes (great Westbrook One Claw), while the bartenders at my local snob spot cannot distinguish Penelope *****cat from Pepe Le Pew.

 

[BreezyBrew]

Why does it have to be barrel aged to be good? Bells expedition is not barrel aged and if you told some beer ****** it was, they would believe you.

 

[geek_chaser]

Here's the thing. There's a difference between being excited about something new and spilling all the new information you just learned, and being a know it all duche bag. Everyone likes what they like. I don't like IPAs, but I know people who do. That's my prerogative. I'm willing to try almost anything just to say I know now whether I like it or not. No other reason. Not to judge.

 

[quantumbeer]

Beer people are annoying?

If it weren't for ancient beer people, there would be no such thing as civilization.

The Sumerians knew it. Read the Epic of Gilgamesh. Prostitute comes to ornery barbarian bent on destroying Sumeria. He eats the bread, yeah fine. It was after drinking the beer that the prostitute presented to him, that he washed himself up and became civilized.

The Egyptians knew it. The Pyramids were built with beer. A man liked by the gods would get 10,000 jugs of beer in the afterlife.

One Greek philosopher said, "He was a very wise man, who invented beer."

Medieval Europe, barrels had "GODISGOOD" engraved on them. Many European monasteries brewed their own beer.

Mayan prophecy talks about Ah Kantenal -- he who adulterates (or ferments) maize

 

[Craig311]

Decided to check out some of my older posts and saw this one. Good read. Anyone feel differently a few years later? Things have evolved quite a bit since I posted this!

 

[Stillraining]

Yes... is this now BA?

 

[Craig311]

Yes... is this now BA?

No, no... I think my point was that this place is the opposite of that.

 

[MaxStout]

No, no... I think my point was that this place is the opposite of that.

I have to agree. It doesn't matter to this forum what a person likes. It's a matter of individual taste and people here are cool with that. Some noob could drop in, ask how to brew a Bud Light clone and I think that there would be plenty of members chiming in to help. Maybe a comment or two in jest, but people here would still help out.

 

[hunter_le five]

I have brewed a Bud Light clone.

 

[TX_Brewing]

I have brewed a Bud Light clone.

Ugh really???? Where is the dislike button........

 

[MaxStout]

I have brewed a Bud Light clone.

Did you post it in the recipes section?

 

[Craig311]

I have to agree. It doesn't matter to this forum what a person likes. It's a matter of individual taste and people here are cool with that. Some noob could drop in, ask how to brew a Bud Light clone and I think that there would be plenty of members chiming in to help. Maybe a comment or two in jest, but people here would still help out.

Definitely. And re-reading my first post... I don't think my point was clear at all. I was critical without stating what I think is great about this forum and the folks here.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I agree with most if not of all reasons you guys have posted in this thread.

I have been told by people who know nothing about beer that I should start a brewery. When they say this what comes to mind is the OP's 1st post. Which is the 1st of many reasons why I would not be a professional brewer.

I am engineer, got laid off along while back, I considered being a brewer during my unemployment period. During the interview they told me I'm over qualified for the job and they didn't think they could keep me happy in this role. They recommended that I stay with engineering. They were so right.

I was in a few home brew clubs when I first started brewing, now that I have moved and rejoined another club only to stop going after awhile because of this this particular subject.

The people were pretty cool but, one particular outspoken person just made it annoying to me. Its like he started taking over the meetings with his agenda. They didn't have elected officers or an agenda meeting minutes. It was bring beer, share beer, talk beer and drink beer. Which is perfect for me up to a point. (I was a member both kinds of beer clubs. The more organized clubs had engineers, IT and scientist-like folks. They had too much business and not enough drinking and general beer talk)

Anyhow, this guy just showed up one day, my guess a friend of friend thing got him invited, seemed to take over. I had been going for 6-8 months then said f-it after this guy came into the picture.

This guy was one brewing maybe 2 years and was now AG-know-it-all. Having a discussion with him was difficult. He was wrong much of the time. I didn't want to be the annoying "know it all", 25% were AG'rs the rest were extracts brewers or noobs.

He wanted the club to brew a bourbon barrel stout. He got a 50 gallon whiskey barrel somewhere then wanted each member to brew 5 gallon batch of stout to add to this big barrel. After several meetings of this discussion I decided it wasn't for me.

I like brewing what I like to drink. While I like bourbon barrel stouts a bottle here a bottle there, not 5 gallons, much less make it a monthly club communion with 50 gallons.

I like the beer geek vs beer snob classification of beer enthusiasts.

 

[Schlenkerla]

BA People who rate beer with the wrong glass style and the many don't pour into a glass at all.

 

[Schlenkerla]

BA - Its like anybody is qualified to write a review. Am I right?

You'd think they need to hold BJCP credentials to be objective. Or do something like rotten tomato's Beerfest

Movie Critic's (41% splat or throw the tomato) vs Audience. (75% favorable)

So the critic's hate it but the majority of movie goers like it...

BJCP vs Average Joe

 

[slym2none]

I have wasted my time like that before.

FTFY

 

[ClaudiusB]

BA People who rate beer with the wrong glass style and the many don't pour into a glass at all.

Both glasses are correct for the style

 

[Stillraining]

No, no... I think my point was that this place is the opposite of that.

No its OK..I did get your point...mine was we have a few of those here ( Now) as well ( if you didn't have any back in 2013 as I was not here then so cant say)...

The snarky know it all types that seem to talk down to people right from their first reply . You cant get away from them no mater where you go, for long anyway.

I have not joined BA but I have gone over there and researched stuff to get a break from what I precieved as a click of A** hole attitudes over here a time or two, rather then add to their egos and ask for their help.

I do a lot of joking around here trying to get a laugh or two, but that is not what I'm talking about nor were you as you stated. That,s just fun guy banter. I totally know and admit I'm a neophyte when it comes to brewing.

I sometimes find myself answering technical questions I shouldn't knowledge wise.. but its never in a looking down my noes sort of way. That perception/entity is definitely here don't kid yourself.

 

[specharka]

I agree with most if not of all reasons you guys have posted in this thread.

I have been told by people who know nothing about beer that I should start a brewery. When they say this what comes to mind is the OP's 1st post. Which is the 1st of many reasons why I would not be a professional brewer.

I am engineer, got laid off along while back, I considered being a brewer during my unemployment period. During the interview they told me I'm over qualified for the job and they didn't think they could keep me happy in this role. They recommended that I stay with engineering. They were so right.

I was in a few home brew clubs when I first started brewing, now that I have moved and rejoined another club only to stop going after awhile because of this this particular subject.

The people were pretty cool but, one particular outspoken person just made it annoying to me. Its like he started taking over the meetings with his agenda. They didn't have elected officers or an agenda meeting minutes. It was bring beer, share beer, talk beer and drink beer. Which is perfect for me up to a point. (I was a member both kinds of beer clubs. The more organized clubs had engineers, IT and scientist-like folks. They had too much business and not enough drinking and general beer talk)

Anyhow, this guy just showed up one day, my guess a friend of friend thing got him invited, seemed to take over. I had been going for 6-8 months then said f-it after this guy came into the picture.

This guy was one brewing maybe 2 years and was now AG-know-it-all. Having a discussion with him was difficult. He was wrong much of the time. I didn't want to be the annoying "know it all", 25% were AG'rs the rest were extracts brewers or noobs.

He wanted the club to brew a bourbon barrel stout. He got a 50 gallon whiskey barrel somewhere then wanted each member to brew 5 gallon batch of stout to add to this big barrel. After several meetings of this discussion I decided it wasn't for me.

I like brewing what I like to drink. While I like bourbon barrel stouts a bottle here a bottle there, not 5 gallons, much less make it a monthly club communion with 50 gallons.

I like the beer geek vs beer snob classification of beer enthusiasts.

I'm with you. I can't stand the snooty ones. I'm very passionate about brewing but I understand that there's always going to be someone else with more experience that I can listen to and learn from. I feel like I have to offer a warning to the people I talk to about brewing just so they know how deep my rabbit hole goes.

I'm comfortable being a beer geek, but I hope nobody ever confuses me for a beer snob.

 

[radwizard]

I just never really talk about beer, unless it is another home brewer. In Portland, the Craft Beer Revolution made every alcoholic think they are a connoisseur...

 

[tagz]

I don't know. You guys must not read many other forums. This is by far the least snarky and most positive forum I read.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I don't know. You guys must not read many other forums. This is by far the least snarky and most positive forum I read.

It's not this forum in particular.

It's people in public who think they know beer and don't really know it but then act arrogant about other people's choices.

I also equate the thought to haters like the people who slam Classic American Pilsners, but will think Heineken, Stella, Budvar and Urquell are the bees knees.

 

[TheBigLebrewsk1]

I posted this in a different thread but thought I'd start a new one specific to this topic...

Uninformed people talking about beer... Slightly informed guy at a brewfest talking about beer... Equally annoying. It's beer. I wish people could just enjoy it and drink what they like. Being a homebrewer for 8 years, knowledgeable, interested, etc... I almost hate to talk beer with people lately.

There's the guy who means well throwing around buzz words like "sessionable", "balanced", etc. He doesn't actually know a damn thing about the beer. He just knows we should all like it based on whatever nonsense review he read. And he's lecturing people in the bar about why they should like certain things, etc.

I want to correct this guy but I never will. Beer is like the band I used to like but now is popular and on the radio. I will continue to brew, drink, and appreciate beer. I guess I'm just more inclined to do it in private, avoiding all the "beer people" and nonsense all together.

The Craft beer re-revolution has certainly attracted more hipsters and jerkoffs than I can stomach, but there is still a majority that could share your passion for beer with and not walk away thinking about what a incredible tool that person was.

 

[kaffeenjunkie]

Try being a classically trained chef and listen a "foodie" drone on and on and on.
They call themselves foodies and it's so painfully obvious they can't even freaking cook.

 

[Bosh]

In pretty much any hobby people who participate in it by buying stuff are going to be a lot more annoying than the people who participate in it by doing stuff. If you're a homebrewer all you need to do is brew good beer and people will know you're awesome but if all you do is buy stuff then how will people know you're awesome unless you tell them?

 

[Dirt_McGirt]

I was in a few home brew clubs when I first started brewing, now that I have moved and rejoined another club only to stop going after awhile because of this this particular subject.

The people were pretty cool but, one particular outspoken person just made it annoying to me. Its like he started taking over the meetings with his agenda. They didn't have elected officers or an agenda meeting minutes. It was bring beer, share beer, talk beer and drink beer. Which is perfect for me up to a point. (I was a member both kinds of beer clubs. The more organized clubs had engineers, IT and scientist-like folks. They had too much business and not enough drinking and general beer talk)

Anyhow, this guy just showed up one day, my guess a friend of friend thing got him invited, seemed to take over. I had been going for 6-8 months then said f-it after this guy came into the picture.

This guy was one brewing maybe 2 years and was now AG-know-it-all. Having a discussion with him was difficult. He was wrong much of the time. I didn't want to be the annoying "know it all", 25% were AG'rs the rest were extracts brewers or noobs.

He wanted the club to brew a bourbon barrel stout. He got a 50 gallon whiskey barrel somewhere then wanted each member to brew 5 gallon batch of stout to add to this big barrel. After several meetings of this discussion I decided it wasn't for me.

I like brewing what I like to drink. While I like bourbon barrel stouts a bottle here a bottle there, not 5 gallons, much less make it a monthly club communion with 50 gallons.

I like the beer geek vs beer snob classification of beer enthusiasts.

None of the people in my main social circle are that into craft beer, much less homebrew, so I'm planning to check out my local club's meeting in a couple weeks. I'm bracing myself for the possibility of there being one or two of "that guy" who's a know-it-all and judgemental prick. I assume the risk comes with the territory.

9/10ths of the reviews I read on BA make me roll my eyes back into my head.
They all seem to be copying the writing styles and language of the handful of actual cicerones who post reviews there, and apeing it to appear smart.

I'm the first person to tell you that my palate is not terribly refined in terms of picking out individual flavors, and that I'm much better at recognizing good beer than being revolted by sub-par beer. While it's a limitation I have as a brewer, at the very least I can take solace that it's preventing me from snobbing out on what others brew.

 

[Stillraining]

to tell the truth I think people in general are annoying

I hate people. people are aholes and I hate aholes.

guess a career in customer service wasn't such a wise choice, but here I am

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[mattdee1]

I also don't have anybody (except for two friends who are slowly coming around) in my inner circle who cares about craft beer or brewing.

Generally speaking I just keep all of it to myself. The vast majority of beer I consume is at home where nobody but my girlfriend sees what I drink. In social situations, I just bring (or order) what suits my fancy at the time, and don't draw much attention to the fact that I am seeking something different from most others.

The one thing that drives me nuts though is the odd time when I'll be pouring a can into a glass and one of my buddies will be standing there with a Bud Light in his hand going "man, what gay ass crap are you drinking now?" or something to that effect. At that point I have no qualms about letting that person know what I think about their beer of choice.

 

[jonny24]

The one thing that drives me nuts though is the odd time when I'll be pouring a can into a glass and one of my buddies will be standing there with a Bud Light in his hand going "man, what gay ass crap are you drinking now?" or something to that effect. At that point I have no qualms about letting that person know what I think about their beer of choice.

My dad is the worst for this. It started from my brother and I teasing him when he was all happy when he found Canadian 67 (3% ABV, 67 calories) because he couldn't find Canadian Light. He was like hey this is pretty good, nice and light! And we pointed out that it was because it's basically water.

So now he calls all the craft beer we drink "horse piss" "that vile stuff" etc. and it's gotten pretty old. Can't tell if he still thinks it's funny or what oh well, more for me.