I might also add that as much as exercise sucks it sure feels great when you've finished your workout.
+1 I enjoy exercising, but that euphoric feeling upon completion, runners call it runners high, is so much better than the workout itself.
I might also add that as much as exercise sucks it sure feels great when you've finished your workout.
Yooper said:I hate to get dragged into nutritional debates, but I will just tell you my experiences.
I am a big believer in "wheat belly", and not "beer belly". My husband is very slim, but had a tiny little pot belly. Two and a half years ago, he did a ton of research on nutrition (he's a biologist) and decided that wheat is not meant for human consumption.
We both quite eating wheat, and most other carbs, and both changed our bodies.
He has to add carbs every few days, or he drops below 149 pounds (he's 5'11") and he eats about 4000 calories per day.
I eat less calories than he does but still LOTS for my size, and I eat far less carbs than he does. My body can have a piece of bread, and change its metabolism. But I can eat tons of protein and vegetables and stay at 135 pounds.
I do drink plenty of beer, but do not eat any wheat or sugar at all. I eat almost no corn, rice, and few potatoes. I eat vegetables and meat (or chicken or fish), very rarely fruit but never fruit juice, and am slim.
We don't do "paleo" diets, but more of a primal type eating plan. There is a TON of research out there showing why high carb/low fat diets are causing the biggest obesity epidemic in history, including in children. The current nutritional teaching, even in diabetic education plans, is wrong. And it's killing Americans. Just look up "metabolic syndrome" to see why this is so important.
hydration should be pretty well known by now. You realize by stopping eating at 7, and not eating again until breakfast at what 8? is a 13 hour fast. If you pushed that to a 16 hour fast you would have 3 more hours of crazy fat burn! That's all Intermittent fasting is. If you ate Dinner at 6pm, and woke up at 10am to eat breakfast, you just fasted 16 hours. Easy as that. An easy way to cut out the snacking since if you do, you aren't fasting.
Yooper, this is very interesting to me. The one part that really sticks out for me is no sugar or wheat. So I take it you mean no added sugar and no grains/bread/pasta made of wheat.. But do you drink wheat beer or have fruit in beer or are you disciplined enough to cut that out as well? Just curious.
I hate wheat beer (and fruit beer), so I really mean no wheat at all. I don't really eat carbs, except for those in some of my veggies (like carrots). I will eat a few berries when they are are ripe (and freeze berries as well), or an apple once in a while, but otherwise I eat very little fruit. I eat no sugar, or anything with added sugar. I also stay away from things like honey, ketchup, BBQ sauce, etc, which are either sugar or loaded with high fructose corn syrup.
It's very hard to buy things at the grocery store that aren't loaded with that stuff, but since I eat meat and vegetables, it's not really an issue. I do eat a few eggs from a friend's farm (although I'm not wild about them), a little cheese (although, again, not wild about it), and use a ton of spices.
I can't give up my beer, though- so I do get plenty of barley. :cross: If it wasn't for beer, I'd probably have no grain products at all.
I eat lots of bread and candy... I'm fit and in good shape. Exercises is the key.
people WAYYYY over-think what it takes to maintain a healthy weight.
how to change your weight
step 1: figure out how many calories you need, using a tool like this. enter in your desired weight and gender.
step 2: eat that many calories a day. eat twinkies or celery, it doesn't matter. just don't go over.
step 3: wait.
in the context of homebrewing, i assume 200 calories a beer. so i cut back on other foods. homebrew is actually pretty filling and i am just as satisfied after half a sandwich and a bottle of homebrew as i am with a whole sandwich and diet soda.
...And to the poster that said certain calories are not created equal, that is incorrect....
Great, glad it's working. I will say that most folks who do the paleo/primal thing say it's more "fun" than what they used to eat...and not just because they lose weight, that's just a side effect. Their whole body & energy level are almost euphoric. The first few weeks are tough as you adjust, but after that it's actually kind of ridiculous how easy and "fun" it is.That sounds not fun at all... Ill stick to eating in moderation and working out a few times a week, seems to be working for me!
That sounds not fun at all... Ill stick to eating in moderation and working out a few times a week, seems to be working for me!
Though I do agree with fruity beers, lightly fruited like purple haze is ok by me however.
Still hungry? Yes, tough. Maybe don't waste your calories on twinkies tomorrow. Restrict calories and you'll learn what to eat.Good luck with that. Titrating calories is a losing battle for most, especially with higher insulin resistance. What happens if you're still hungry and not satieted? Tough? The advice to "eat less" is frankly not sustainable for most people because the source of their calories spikes & crashes blood sugar, leading to a ravenous appetite.
You just have to stick to an effort level above sloth.
jeepinjeepin said:Personal experience story. I quit drinking Mt Dew, started counting calories, and make better choices on food. I have cut back on red meat for chicken. Fried foods are practically gone from my plate. The sharp decrease was a sinus infection. The two sharp increases were beer festivals where I over ate and drank.
It isn't hard. Almost everything works. You just have to stick to an effort level above sloth.
Personal experience story. I quit drinking Mt Dew, started counting calories, and make better choices on food. I have cut back on red meat for chicken. Fried foods are practically gone from my plate. The sharp decrease was a sinus infection. The two sharp increases were beer festivals where I over ate and drank.
The thing I really don't get is, on paper I am in pretty good shape. I have good cholesterol levels, good blood pressure and a resting heart rate of approximately 50 bpm. But I'm about 50 lbs overweight if you follow traditional guidance. I believe that if your ticker is in good shape and you take care of your body by eating a nutritionally sound diet, weight shouldn't even be relevant. Some people just weren't built with the genetics for a skinny body.
This is one of those topics where everyone is an expert but no one knows ****. Even my doctor tries to tell me what to eat and not to eat and he is a huge fat ass... but he is a doctor right? So he must know right? lol. I told him I was going to fix my cholesterol without statins by not eating wheat, corn, or refined sugars and by eating crap tons of animal fat and vegetables. He said I was crazy.
Still hungry? Yes, tough. Maybe don't waste your calories on twinkies tomorrow. Restrict calories and you'll learn what to eat.
xjmox14x said:Awesome progress, but don't give much credit to the BMI index number shown there. BMI only takes into account height and weight, no other variables such as bodyfat and fitness level. According to the BMI index most linebackers in the NFL are "obese".
Well, that's the thing- it IS fun! I eat so much you can't believe it, and my cholesterol is low, my fasting blood sugar is low, my weight is low, and my body is lean. I used to exercise, and I know I should, but I don't do much other than some hiking and kayaking.
I eat a ton of fish, chicken, lamb, pork, beef, and tons of vegetables. I love spicy food, and eat Thai food often. I eat grass fed beef, olive oil, coconut oil, venison, etc.
I drink more beer than most people, I'm sure, but don't seem to have any health effects. I don't miss pasta or carbs at all, but I did for the first month or so. I can run circles around people half my age, and am very strong for only being 135 pounds and 48 1/2 years old!
The thing for me is that I feel GREAT. I used to feel sluggish at times, or have headaches, or have aches and pains, or have gas. That is longer the case- I feel absolutely fabulous, with tons of energy to spare. I'm never tired. The other weird thing? I'm NEVER hungry. Never. High fat and high protein foods are satiating.
It's all about choices. I think the benefits to this lifestyle choice outweigh the "not fun" part of not eating junk food.
But that doesn't work.
The whole calorie in/calorie out nutritional advice has been debunked in the last few years by research and science. It's true that you won't get fat if you eat a low enough calorie diet, but it's not optimum for proper nutrition for humans.
According to the BMI index most linebackers in the NFL are "obese".
Yooper, comon now, you're very respected on this board, what is that junk?
No need to be disrespectful just because you don't share the same point of view.
The idea that "all calories are equal, just eat less calories" seems logical but here's my issue with it. I am not a nutritionist, but I can attest from personal experience that a person can pretty much eat as much protein and vegetables as they want without gaining weight, and in fact possibly losing weight. So I'm with Yooper on this one. And you can do it while feeling full. If you eat 500 calories of chocolate, you will be hungry again very shortly. If you eat that same 500 calories as a dense protein and some vegetables you'll be full. So there are other dynamics at play and that's why "all calories are equal" is a little simplistic.
So you realize you just said that its harder to eat 2000 calories in meat and veggie, but really easy in sugar? So it still comes down to calories in vs calories out. The only factory your taking out is the willpower to not eat over 2000 calories in chocolate. Sure you may be hungry, and it may be easier to ear steak and veg and feel full, but it is still all about the calories.
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