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It's because they can't rely on the kid with to do simple math because he can't have his phone on him at work to use the calculator. The computer tells him the age.

Sad but true....

Like when something costs $4.76 and you give them $5.01 and they give you a blank stare....

(I actually don't do that, but my always does. I remember when I was little I bought something at the toy store and not knowing any better, yet watching my dad over the years, just randomly threw some change with the paper money :D)
 
However, both my wife and I have had many age-related issues. We both look like 16 (look at my avatar, I was in 9th grade there, and I still look the same except for the sharpie beard). For example, we are both grad students and therefore have university-issued bus cards. About once every month, they don't let her on the bus because they think she must be using her older sister's bus card. She then procures her driver's license to show that she is indeed the same person as on the bus card.

You'll count your blessings on the back end... I got carded until I was well into my mid thirties.. people still think I'm at least a decade younger than I am... While it was a bit of a PITA when I was your age, I am dang happy about it now...
 
Yeah rocketman that was the first thing I thought to, how young you look in your avatar picture. That really must make it difficult.

I had just the opposite, I started graying at the temples and such at 18, and I had a beard or some sort of facial hair since then as well, so I drank underage in campus bars quite a lot. In fact the only time I got carded was on a date with a girl where we ended up at one of the campus bars I drank at all the time, and I think the waitress like me and was pissed that I came in with someone. She went to card to be snarky but I had actually turned 21 a month before. But the look she gave me, because not only was she po-ed that I was in with someone, but that she'd been serving me underaged for over a year and never knew.
 
Sad but true....

Like when something costs $4.76 and you give them $5.01 and they give you a blank stare....

(I actually don't do that, but my always does. I remember when I was little I bought something at the toy store and not knowing any better, yet watching my dad over the years, just randomly threw some change with the paper money :D)

Watching modern day high school 'graduates' deal with a tape measure or an analog clock is 'interesting' too...
 
Watching modern day high school 'graduates' deal with a tape measure or an analog clock is 'interesting' too...

I went out with this girl in high school and through most of college. I should say, first, I had terribly low self-esteem. And she put out. That was about the extent of the reason I was in this relationship, because I was socially inept and she liked sucking dick.

Anyway, whatever analogy you want to use, "dumber than a box of rocks," "IQ of a fencepost," "dumber than a box of rocks that just lost a spelling bee to a fencepost," whatever... it fits.

I finally knew that I *had* to break up with her when she asked me for help reading a tape measure. She was having difficulty with the concepts of half-inches, and half-of-a-half-inch is a quarter-inch, and she was going to start a job doing quality control at a factory.

I got that damn girl through college. I helped her study, I helped her with papers, I deserve my damn name on her degree more than she does. And I knew, as she held that tape measure with a helpless look in her eyes, I just knew at that moment that I would rather kill myself than spend any more time with her.

Not before one last pity-****, though.
 
You mean besides the book of state licenses they keep at every counter? I suppose I should also never travel outside IL when I get my new license either, because nobody outside IL will be able to tell if I'm 21 or not.

That is an even worse excuse than he was given by the store? So if you were to go on vacation to another state you should not be allowed to purchase alcohol?

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Come one guys. Use your heads here. Going on vacation and paying a visit is one thing. Establishing a change of residence is quite another. If you travel to another area, you expect some inconveniences. You shrug them off, and chalk it up to her being a dumb store clerk, then you go to another store where they will accept you ID.

BUT YOU LIVE THERE! JUST GO GET A LICENSE FROM IL!!!!!
 
I went out with this girl in high school and through most of college. I should say, first, I had terribly low self-esteem. And she put out. That was about the extent of the reason I was in this relationship, because I was socially inept and she liked sucking dick.

Anyway, whatever analogy you want to use, "dumber than a box of rocks," "IQ of a fencepost," "dumber than a box of rocks that just lost a spelling bee to a fencepost," whatever... it fits.

I finally knew that I *had* to break up with her when she asked me for help reading a tape measure. She was having difficulty with the concepts of half-inches, and half-of-a-half-inch is a quarter-inch, and she was going to start a job doing quality control at a factory.

I got that damn girl through college. I helped her study, I helped her with papers, I deserve my damn name on her degree more than she does. And I knew, as she held that tape measure with a helpless look in her eyes, I just knew at that moment that I would rather kill myself than spend any more time with her.

Not before one last pity-****, though.

When I was building my house, I hired this kid (HS graduate) to help me do the siding.. He could not 'grasp' fractions, and thus could not read a tape measure.. How did this kid graduate HS? I had to know algebra! I had to understand fractions to get out of third grade!
 
The target store in town cards 'everyone'.. no exception.. That didn't bother me when I was buying a bottle of wine.. in fact it flattered me until the kid explained that they card everyone...

But then, he scanned the license... 'That' made me decide to never buy alcohol there again.. I see no reason why my purchase had to be documented... and I didn't like it...

That isn't too track you. It is to check that it is valid and also make it idiot proof so the people don't have to figure out if you are old enough.

Come one guys. Use your heads here. Going on vacation and paying a visit is one thing. Establishing a change of residence is quite another. If you travel to another area, you expect some inconveniences. You shrug them off, and chalk it up to her being a dumb store clerk, then you go to another store where they will accept you ID.

BUT YOU LIVE THERE! JUST GO GET A LICENSE FROM IL!!!!!


But how in the hell is a clerk going to know the difference? You said they don't know what a fake looks like so they shouldn't sell to you yet you say it is ok if you don't live there. To the store there is no difference.
 
I like watching the sagging trophy wives in their 40s throw fits at the Total Wine in Boca. They right down the dates from the license on their sheets to coincide with the purchase too.

I've seen some good fake IDs from working as a cashier and I've seen some bad ones. I've never seen a fake ID that scanned through with the same details as on the card though.
 
I've never seen a fake ID that scanned through with the same details as on the card though.

I have seen it happen and used to know the guy that made them. A couple months later though the FBI kicked in his dorm room door and I think he is doing 10+ in federal prison.
 
But how in the hell is a clerk going to know the difference? You said they don't know what a fake looks like so they shouldn't sell to you yet you say it is ok if you don't live there. To the store there is no difference.


Agreed. But if you are just visiting, you shake it off and move on. If you LIVE THERE, you do what you can to make sure it doesn't happen again. Because otherwise you will be dealing with this crap for a long time.
 
Except this was a 10 minute ordeal and three people scrutinized every detail on the card, only to tell me that yes, this was me, I was indeed 25, the license was valid until 2016, and I still couldn't buy beer.

What state issues DLs valid for 10 years?
 
My license is good until I'm 65... Don't have to update for 36 more years!
 
My current license is only good for a total of 3 years 2 months and 5 days. It doesn't expire on my birthday. I won't be turning any special age next year. Lord knows what the reason is for such a weird time frame on this currently issued one.

I too suffer from 'you like 14-itis'. After turning 21 my friends and I gathered to visit one of our other friends doing a co-op in Richmond VA (we're all from Knoxville area Tennessee). We got there and decided to do a bar hop one night. One of the bars decided to refuse service to me. I can't blame them based on the fact on how young I look, and that most of us in our crew had licenses from different states (FL, TN, NC, KY). It just didn't look "right" even though it was. My friends grabbed a brew there then we moved on. We made sure I got two at the next stop to make up for lost ground.
 
parts of TX won't let you. Ask me how I know :mad: I ordered a beer at a bar, and gave her my Ohio license when asked for ID. She said i needed a TX issued ID. I asked, "I'm supposed to 1) know that and 2) go get a ID made for being in town for 2 days just to have a beer when I'm freakin 24 years old!? She said yes. I did not argue. It was a bar I shouldn't have been in to begin with.

Must have been a policy at the bar. TABC code permits any valid government issued ID (including military, or passport) from any state OR country. As long as the ID appears to be authentic, and they don't have any reason to believe you are under age, they won't be busted if it's a fake.. it's written right in the code.

I'm amazed how many folks go into the business of selling without actually understanding the law.
 
TABC code permits any valid government issued ID

Code permits it, sure... but if a bartender (bouncer, whatever) isn't sure it's legit (lack of training, suspicion, whatever), they'll refuse service to cover their arse.

A few bucks in lost revenue is worth it to not have to deal w/ TABC....

I just grew a beard. Haven't been carded at all since. :-D
 
Code permits it, sure... but if a bartender (bouncer, whatever) isn't sure it's legit (lack of training, suspicion, whatever), they'll refuse service to cover their arse.

A few bucks in lost revenue is worth it to not have to deal w/ TABC....

I just grew a beard. Haven't been carded at all since. :-D

Same here, well, almost. :D

BTW I'll be at the Draught House tomorrow around 7. If you show up I'll buy you a beer. They know me there, I won't be carded... :D
 
My local beer distributer has a scanner that you can use any type of ID to verify your age. I tried it with my military ID and it worked. Although I now look well over 21 :( and don't get carded anymore. When I was in the Navy in the 80's (1980's not 1880's), I went to buy beer in Ca.. they wouldn't take my NY driver's license. Okay, what about my Mil ID? Nope not that either. I was pretty pissed. I can die for my country, but I can't buy beer. I was 22 or 23 at the time and looked younger.
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