Bay Area Thread

[loeyjarko]

If they did the Reality Black or whatever the hell the “Black Pilsner” they made was called in cans hngngnngngn

 

[BrandoSF]

If they did the Reality Black or whatever the hell the “Black Pilsner” they made was called in cans hngngnngngn

Black to Reality

 

[pen15clubmember]

Our prayers = answered. I’m taking some out of town friends to RR tomorrow. Looks like a lil stop by Moonlight is in ******* order.

 

[drgarage1]

Our prayers = answered. I’m taking some out of town friends to RR tomorrow. Looks like a lil stop by Moonlight is in ******* order.

Incredible timing, although it seems like it's going to be just a little too late for the heatwave in the city, at least.

 

[Shakedwnst]

That heatwave was awful. With all the millions of dollars out there you’d think someone besides the hotels and office buildings could afford air conditioning.

 

[drgarage1]

That heatwave was awful. With all the millions of dollars out there you’d think someone besides the hotels and office buildings could afford air conditioning.

I mean, who has money for that after rent?

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

These heat waves are an eye-opener. One of the observations I've made since I've moved to California is how poorly insulated old apartment buildings are. Because of this poor insulation, heat from outdoors gets conducted through the building envelope at much higher rates. In addition to poor insulation, windows are often very poor quality and don't seal well. This is another source of heat gain. So how do we adapt? I've skimmed through a couple of bay area resilience plans and there just isn't enough movement in the short term to ramp up adaptation efforts. We probably won't see too much until folks start dying from heat stroke at epidemic rates.

 

[KevSal]

These heat waves are an eye-opener. One of the observations I've made since I've moved to California is how poorly insulated old apartment buildings are. Because of this poor insulation, heat from outdoors gets conducted through the building envelope at much higher rates. In addition to poor insulation, windows are often very poor quality and don't seal well. This is another source of heat gain. So how do we adapt? I've skimmed through a couple of bay area resilience plans and there just isn't enough movement in the short term to ramp up adaptation efforts. We probably won't see too much until folks start dying from heat stroke at epidemic rates.

these heat waves to happen often enough in sf which is why there no movement

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

these heat waves to happen often enough in sf which is why there no movement

Climate change happens over a long temporal scale. We're already seeing the effects of it through increased droughts and wildfires. These heatwaves, and other erratic weather patterns, will likely become more frequent. This is why climate change mitigation and adaptation efforts are so difficult to implement. The cause (human behavior & development) and effect (climate change) aren't immediate.

 

[anvindr]

wildfires.

not sure how PG&E negligence is related to climate change but okay

 

[loeyjarko]

not sure how PG&E negligence is related to climate change but okay

Hotter temps = dryer tinder = more wildfires

 

[loeyjarko]

We’ve always had heatwaves in the Bay Area. Most places that are more inland like Orinda, San Jose, Sonoma are equipped for it and folks have AC. Not really sure how it’s an eye opener. Short term adaptation plans? Lol we can’t even get high density housing built near transit centers.

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

We’ve always had heatwaves in the Bay Area. Most places that are more inland like Orinda, San Jose, Sonoma are equipped for it and folks have AC. Not really sure how it’s an eye opener. Short term adaptation plans? Lol we can’t even get high density housing built near transit centers.

Heatwaves have occurred in the past, yes, but the frequency in which they're occurring is rising. Visit this site:

https://cal-adapt.org/tools/extreme-heat/

You'll see the data for yourself.

What's eye-opening is that despite the observations and predictions, cities aren't making more of an effort to address resilience issues, whether it's climate change or the threat of earthquakes. Also, while I love AC, it's also a double-edged sword. They require massive amounts of energy and older units emit HFCs, another greenhouse gas. Not to mention, with all the shoddy building construction, AC units lose their effectiveness.

I agree on the lack of dense housing development. That's another development failure.

 

[anvindr]

AC units contribute to climate change. insulation is good but AC is bad. we should all live in hobbit houses

change my mind.

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

AC units contribute to climate change. insulation is good but AC is bad. we should all live in hobbit houses

change my mind.

This is not really up for debate. Heating and cooling account for a majority of energy consumption in households. The goal is to find strategies to reduce that energy consumption and there are a different ways to go about that. One of them is to invest in building improvements, some of which I mentioned above. Another is through behavior change. I don't expect people to give up AC, and in a scenario where we're experiencing extreme heat events, it's more than reasonable to use them. However, there's a cost to to using them so we should be doing so wisely.

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

Not trying to make the Bay Area thread into a climate change thread, but since that was the topic yesterday, I might as well share these links.

Today's Science Friday show is centered on the urban heat island effect.

https://www.sciencefriday.com/episodes/june-14-2019/

Today's Forum was centered on urban development in high fire risk zones

https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101871662/is-it-time-to-stop-building-in-areas-at-high-risk-for-fire

 

[loeyjarko]

You’re ****** up the thread dawg.

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

You’re ****** up the thread dawg.

I know. Apologies. These days, keeping up with craft beer trends has been relegated to a low position in terms of how I choose to allocate my mental resources. Chalk it up to limited $$$ and the rise of milkshake IPAs. The weekly rotation of haze cans can only hold my interest for so long.

 

[KevSal]

the rise of milkshake IPAs.

i blame the milkshake ipas for these damn heat waves

and brut ipas too

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

i blame the milkshake ipas for these damn heat waves

and brut ipas too

haha thanks for that!

BTW, if I ever have a beer with you, I'm going to bore you to death about climate change and city planning.

 

[KevSal]

haha thanks for that!

BTW, if I ever have a beer with you, I'm going to bore you to death about climate change and city planning.

 

[loeyjarko]

I come here to escape my problems not face the most pressing issues of our time.

 

[Lupulin the 3rd]

I come here to escape my problems not face the most pressing issues of our time.

I agree. This should be an oasis. I just have a hard time compartmentalizing given the scope of the problem. As it relates to beer, I was in Brussels in August last year and it was 96°. Talked to one of the tour guides at Cantillon and was told that climate change has had an effect on the yields of fruits that they use so bottle counts have decreased as a result. It's a bummer of a topic but it's inescapable.

Anyway, I'll stop. hehe

 

[AndresR]

Forgot to mention, I went to the WF near my current job, at lunch time on Friday. Wanted to grab some Reality Czeck. Ill be dammed, it was SOLD OUT! Aready?

On one hand...great job everyone!

On the other....WTF? A sold out pilsner? None for me ********!

 

[FoudreGuy]

Forgot to mention, I went to the WF near my current job, at lunch time on Friday. Wanted to grab some Reality Czeck. Ill be dammed, it was SOLD OUT! Aready?

On one hand...great job everyone!

On the other....WTF? A sold out pilsner? None for me ********!

I got the last cans of Reality Czeck at Toronado on Friday. Same thing happened at home in Seattle when pFriem Pilsner cans first came out.

 

[snuffy707]

Forgot to mention, I went to the WF near my current job, at lunch time on Friday. Wanted to grab some Reality Czeck. Ill be dammed, it was SOLD OUT! Aready?

On one hand...great job everyone!

On the other....WTF? A sold out pilsner? None for me ********!

Logged on here specifically to ask if anyone knows east bay spots that got it. Now this might make it harder to find than I thought. Anyway, anyone seen it in the EB at all?

 

[nothingisreal]

Logged on here specifically to ask if anyone knows east bay spots that got it. Now this might make it harder to find than I thought. Anyway, anyone seen it in the EB at all?

BeerRev had a bunch of D&T and Reality Czeck tins left over last night

 

[theLostWizard]

I’m ISO the new toro crew neck for cost + thank you beers if anyone cares.

 

[anvindr]

I’m ISO the new toro crew neck for cost + thank you beers if anyone cares.

are you bay area? or out of state? also, size?

 

[theLostWizard]

are you bay area? or out of state? also, size?

I’m in South Bay, size medium.