bars and dogs

[frydogbrews]

it was brought up in another thread about dogs and bars. i'm just curious what peoples thoughts are on this. another poster mentioned that he didn't care for a place that allows dogs. no problem, it a personal opinion. i have two dogs. a big lazy one (named fry) and younger, small (50 lbs) jittery one named bender. both black and tan coonhound mutts.
while bender is nowhere near trained well enough yet to go to a bar, Fry goes to many.
i personally enjoy bars that have well trained dogs and when i go into a bar that has a dog in it, i immediatly smile and am happy to be there and will probably settle in for a longer stay if dogs are around; just feels more like home. but i'm a dog guy.
in the circle i run in, great craft beer and great dogs seem to go hand in hand.
what do you folks think?

 

[jaycount]

So a dog walks into a bar... wheres the punchline?

Taking a dog to a bar? I don't know... sounds like a potential recipe for disaster.

 

[smalliewader]

My Lab goes wherever he's allowed to go. A few weeks ago, we hit Put in bay, Ohio and did a bar crawl. He was allowed in every single bar. Very dog friendly island. He picked up every chick on the island in those bars.

I agree well trained dogs are welcome in my book. If not in the bar (for food service reasons), at least out on the patio/deck.

 

[Hernando]

I do the same as smalliewader, And tend to freuquent the more dog friendly places more than I would the opposite. A lot of breweries here in CO. do not serve food at these establishments. I am fine with bringing a dog to a place that doesn't serve food. I really don't see a problem with it. If it is a dining establishment, we simply sit on the patio (weather permitting with our two boxers). As long as the dog(s) are socialized and obey voice/hand commands it's okay and don't really see the problem.

 

[cfonnes]

Ales definitely taste better with a dog hair in them, not sure about lagers though.

 

[david_42]

As a long-term dog owner: NO. Other than service dogs, I do not want to see them in bars or restaurants.

 

[bh10]

Outside bars with well trained dogs, I have no problem with it.

 

[Zamial]

As a long-term dog owner: NO. Other than service dogs, I do not want to see them in bars or restaurants.

QFT

I frequent a bar that has "dog nights". I do not mind events like those but outside of events, I perfer smoke, children and animal free enviorments.

 

[frydogbrews]

i agree with smoke, it smells bad. i agree with kids, they cry, whine, etc...
but what do well behaved dogs do? not some yappy thing, or a big guy trying to tug his owners around, but a decent, good dog? i guess you could step on the dog or something, but that would be the owners fault

i have far more problems with morons that are drunk at the bar than some dog hanging out by his family. plus, the dogs cleaner than half of the people there!

 

[cimirie]

I am FAR more likely to stay at a bar if it allows dogs - even when I don't have my two. Places that allow dogs are far more laid back and the people who frequent them are more likely to be people I want to be around.

It always floors me when people get upset about it. Now, if the dogs in question are acting unruly, I get that. But dogs just chillin' while their owners are chillin'... Ain't nothing bad in that world!

 

[PerpetualBuzz]

We have this place dogbarcharlotte. They don't serve food, but it's a cool place to hang out and have some drinks and meet other dog people.

 

[motobrewer]

screw that. i'm pretty allergic to dogs.

you can bring your dog if I can sneeze all night in your beer.

also you'll have to wash my clothes and jacket, preferably before I get home and get dog hair all over my house.

 

[Rev2010]

I am FAR more likely to stay at a bar if it allows dogs - even when I don't have my two. Places that allow dogs are far more laid back and the people who frequent them are more likely to be people I want to be around.

Hit the nail right on the head. My two dogs (one is 15 with cataracts so he can't see and the younger one is waaay aggressive to anyone/thing outside of family) would not be fit for going to a bar. But I've been at a bar here in Manhattan that had their own dog, and he was awesome. Just totally hanging out with the patrons and everyone loved him.

Motobrewer has an excellent point though that we are all forgetting - allergies! Some people are violently allergic to dogs. I am not. But, I now have seasonal allergies and cat allergies since I hit 25 years old - 37 now. I grew up with a couple of cats in the house all my life with no problems until 3 years past moving out.

Allergies suck worse than the common cold. So from that point of view I can completely understand. Of course, the other aspect is if you don't like it you don't have to frequent said establishment.


Rev.

 

[frydogbrews]

an allergy. that's a very valid reason. i wish i could use that reason to ban all the perfume and cologne that are at bars too though.

i know people are allergic like that to cats, but i have never heard of that sensitive of an allergy to dogs. just being in a room 30 feet from a dog will set you off? that sucks.

 

[IrregularPulse]

I guess I'd be torn on this. The idea of the kind of place that has the lazy dog that just hangs out is comforting. On the other hand, I don't like the idea of going to a pub for dinner and having dogs about. I guess if it's a Pub dog just lounging, that's great. But for patrons to bring their own dogs, I guess that would bother me. Make as much sense of it as you will.

 

[motobrewer]

Hit the nail right on the head. My two dogs (one is 15 with cataracts so he can't see and the younger one is waaay aggressive to anyone/thing outside of family) would not be fit for going to a bar. But I've been at a bar here in Manhattan that had their own dog, and he was awesome. Just totally hanging out with the patrons and everyone loved him.

Motobrewer has an excellent point though that we are all forgetting - allergies! Some people are violently allergic to dogs. I am not. But, I now have seasonal allergies and cat allergies since I hit 25 years old - 37 now. I grew up with a couple of cats in the house all my life with no problems until 3 years past moving out.

Allergies suck worse than the common cold. So from that point of view I can completely understand. Of course, the other aspect is if you don't like it you don't have to frequent said establishment.


Rev.

i'm not suggesting they make it illegal. i'm all for letting an owner decided what to do with his bar. if he wants dogs, go for it.

 

[stp]

Problem is, you can't have your cake and eat it too. So I'd say no to dogs in a bar. If a bar says they allow dogs they'll have to allow all dogs or none at all. That would be like a restaurant saying kids are allowed but if they start crying they'll have to leave.

I am FAR more likely to stay at a bar if it allows dogs - even when I don't have my two. Places that allow dogs are far more laid back and the people who frequent them are more likely to be people I want to be around.

It always floors me when people get upset about it. Now, if the dogs in question are acting unruly, I get that. But dogs just chillin' while their owners are chillin'... Ain't nothing bad in that world!

 

[motobrewer]

That would be like a restaurant saying kids are allowed but if they start crying they'll have to leave.

oh god, not this again....

 

[rhamilton]

Are you guys talking about the dogs being inside or outside?

 

[cimirie]

Problem is, you can't have your cake and eat it too. So I'd say no to dogs in a bar. If a bar says they allow dogs they'll have to allow all dogs or none at all. That would be like a restaurant saying kids are allowed but if they start crying they'll have to leave.

Not exactly. Dogs aren't like people. They don't have rights. You CAN discriminate based on dog size, breed, behavior, or color. You can say "well socialized dogs only" and the owner's determination on what "well socialized" means is perfectly acceptable.

I find (as somebody who is ridiculously involved in the "dog community") that the vast majority of people who would bring their dogs to a bar, are very conscious of their dog and very responsible about whether or not to bring their dogs along. For the most part, it is a community very focused on self regulation and responsibility.

 

[wittmania]

Dogs don't belong in bars. I can't believe this is even a point of discussion.

 

[cfonnes]

I always thought that my neighborhood could use a pub that men who need a break from the SWMBO could "take the dog for a walk" and have pint.

 

[slothorentropy]

Brooklyn's really the only place I ever much saw dogs in bars. I'm good with it if there's no cooking going on, though I can certainly also see the many potential problems it'd raise.

 

[eltorrente]

If there were two bars in town, and one allowed dogs and the other didn't, I'd rather hang out with the people (and dogs) in the dog-friendly bar. I don't even have a dog. The uptight people can hang out in the other bar.

 

[slothorentropy]

I will always rather hang out with animals, yeah.

 

[Bernie Brewer]

I would have to believe that having a dog in a bar would be a huge health code violation, especially if the bar serves food. And seriously, when was the last time you were in a bar that didn't at least serve pizza?

 

[cimirie]

I would have to believe that having a dog in a bar would be a huge health code violation, especially if the bar serves food. And seriously, when was the last time you were in a bar that didn't at least serve pizza?

No health code violation as long as the animals are not in the preparation area.

 

[stp]

Not exactly. Dogs aren't like people. They don't have rights. You CAN discriminate based on dog size, breed, behavior, or color. You can say "well socialized dogs only" and the owner's determination on what "well socialized" means is perfectly acceptable.

Well, I learned something new! I would think that if an owner did discriminate against some dogs though, there might be some pretty upset dog owners regardless if it's okay or not.
But either way. I still don't want a dog in my bar. Or kids for that matter. :cross:

 

[Clann]

I am a dog person and have a 12 yr old dalmation mix but one of the things that I can't stand is people who think they need to take their pets everywhere they go. Just the other day I was eating at a chinese restarunt and a couple walked in who got out of their car that had two large dogs in it and they left the car running with the windows up so I'll assume the A/C was on. So they could go in and eat? Leave the damn dogs at home!

 

[davefleck]

I love dogs but 98% of dog owners feel their dog is well trained and I doubt half are correct.

A dog section on the patio is cool but I don't want to feel bad when I step on your mutt's tail when its crowded.

Also, even well trained dogs snap at each other at times.

Or, dog bites patron, patron would more likely sue the bar as it is insured