Ballast Point - Victory at Sea. This is pure beer nirvana.

[Joesl8]

Victory at Sea is AMAZING. My favorite imperial vanilla stout. I brewed a pretty decent clone of it, and it's one of the best beers I brewed. Highly recommended.

I thought VaS was great till I tried Sudwerk 3 best friends. Same idea in a lager!? If you can get VaS on tap, it's good, but the bottle versions suck balz. As for them selling out...a sell out is a sell out. Maybe you think it's ok? I'm old school and don't. I don't buy ballast anymore, but they were always aholes IMO.

 

[55x11]

I thought VaS was great till I tried Sudwerk 3 best friends. Same idea in a lager!? If you can get VaS on tap, it's good, but the bottle versions suck balz. As for them selling out...a sell out is a sell out. Maybe you think it's ok? I'm old school and don't. I don't buy ballast anymore, but they were always aholes IMO.

You seem to be blaming Ballast Point for selling 50% share to InBev/Constellation, but I don't blame them at all. They had $200M business, at best and someone offered them $1Billion, just for the brand name? I would take that.

If your house is worth $200K and I offer you $1 Million, if you are smart, you probably will sell, (and you should sell), never mind the fact that your kids grew up in that house etc. Yes, you would be a "sell out" (your words), but you know you can buy 5 houses with the money you have.

If you are so old-school that you won't accept 5 times your house value, good for you (also, I strongly suspect you are a liar in that case). But at least you shouldn't blame your neighbor if he sells out for a similar deal. I don't.

I am not sure how Ballast Point was ever "ahole" to you, except for producing their beer, which you are free to drink or not drink, and their beer, for the most part is very good if not excellent. So what did Ballast Point folks ever did to you to become "a-holes"?

Look, if you don't like Victory at Sea (not sure what you are doing in this thread then, and I can't see how it can be compared to a *lager*), fine - Victory at Sea predates the "sell-out". If you want to boycott all Ballast Point beers past 2015, that's fine too.

Either way, none of this has any relevance to the way Victory at Sea tastes.

 

[Calaeb]

You seem to be blaming Ballast Point for selling 50% share to InBev/Constellation, but I don't blame them at all. They had $200M business, at best and someone offered them $1Billion, just for the brand name? I would take that.

If your house is worth $200K and I offer you $1 Million, if you are smart, you probably will sell, (and you should sell), never mind the fact that your kids grew up in that house etc. Yes, you would be a "sell out" (your words), but you know you can buy 5 houses with the money you have.

If you are so old-school that you won't accept 5 times your house value, good for you (also, I strongly suspect you are a liar in that case). But at least you shouldn't blame your neighbor if he sells out for a similar deal. I don't.

I am not sure how Ballast Point was ever "ahole" to you, except for producing their beer, which you are free to drink or not drink, and their beer, for the most part is very good if not excellent. So what did Ballast Point folks ever did to you to become "a-holes"?

Look, if you don't like Victory at Sea (not sure what you are doing in this thread then, and I can't see how it can be compared to a *lager*), fine - Victory at Sea predates the "sell-out". If you want to boycott all Ballast Point beers past 2015, that's fine too.

Either way, none of this has any relevance to the way Victory at Sea tastes.

Well said! do you happen to have the clone recipe you followed? id love to have it on tap when i want lol

 

[Joesl8]

You seem to be blaming Ballast Point for selling 50% share to InBev/Constellation, but I don't blame them at all. They had $200M business, at best and someone offered them $1Billion, just for the brand name? I would take that.

If your house is worth $200K and I offer you $1 Million, if you are smart, you probably will sell, (and you should sell), never mind the fact that your kids grew up in that house etc. Yes, you would be a "sell out" (your words), but you know you can buy 5 houses with the money you have.

If you are so old-school that you won't accept 5 times your house value, good for you (also, I strongly suspect you are a liar in that case). But at least you shouldn't blame your neighbor if he sells out for a similar deal. I don't.

I am not sure how Ballast Point was ever "ahole" to you, except for producing their beer, which you are free to drink or not drink, and their beer, for the most part is very good if not excellent. So what did Ballast Point folks ever did to you to become "a-holes"?

Look, if you don't like Victory at Sea (not sure what you are doing in this thread then, and I can't see how it can be compared to a *lager*), fine - Victory at Sea predates the "sell-out". If you want to boycott all Ballast Point beers past 2015, that's fine too.

Either way, none of this has any relevance to the way Victory at Sea tastes.

You are probably right, not sure if I'd sell out a brewery if I invested my soul into it but I'm 100% sure I'd give my recipes away because let's face it, I brew but I still buy beers, so a majority of us homebrewers still buy their beer. I guess I was just bitter because it seems that everyone selling out to these piss paddlers, they're even buying supply shops and I just think it's bad for us. I Don't even think ballast is worth the 9 zeros but they do make good beers, even though I stopped buying them because they're just too damn expensive. I've found other beers just as good. Sorry, just ranting but youre probably right, and it is a free market.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=202432&page=2

 

[slym2none]

I don't consider a brewery "selling out" as a bad thing, as long as the taste and quality stays the same. It may also result in lower prices, and farther distribution. It does get a little crazy with some beers like sculpin. Can you imagine Pineapple Headdy Topper, or Habanero Pliny.

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