Bad Trade?

[igotsand]

Hey op.
You got a phone number for the guy in question?
If not, pm the 4 people that did trades with the deadbeat(i like it better than bad trader)anf try to get it and call/text him.

 

[YeastMode]

Look, we need to bring this issue to a head. I suggest the following action:

1. Mail him a Bud Light Lime (its the equivalent of a horse head).
2. Put a note on it that if you don't see your beer in 48 hours or your money then a 6-pack is next.
3. If he still doesn't send your beer, RSVP him for a local MillerCoors event.
4. If you STILL don't get your beer or money, post the username.
5. ????????
6. Profit.

 

[BigPerm]

It's been 6 weeks since he got your shipment. I'm all for benefit of the doubt, but its probably time for a little public pressure.

 

[spongebob2]

No excuses - bring OUT your dead!

 

[JordanKnudson]

Subbing. This is like a reality tv show for homebrewers. Can't wait for next week's episode. I hope he outs bachelor #1. Or whatever they do on those shows.

 

[cannman]

 

[GrainToGlass]

Is there a way to trade using a third-party? For example:

Person A ships to Person B's LHBS
Person B ships to Person A's LHBS
Both LHBS confirms trade is fulfilled and ready to pickup.
LHBS may charge a small fee for their service.

 

[wobrien]

I think there are enough clues to figure this one out.

 

[Remmy]

At what point do you decide that a trade will likely not be fulfilled?
Is 3 weeks without any communication, after repeated messages (not to mention $136 worth of good beer 6 weeks ago) sent too long to wait?
I'm inclined to understand that s**t happens and the majority of people have good intentions and will follow through.
Any thoughts? This is my first trade

It happens.

I've been stiffed twice (both packages sent out to different HBT members last summer).

It stinks but it's not worth begging or arguing over.

 

[Mexibilly]

It happens.

I've been stiffed twice (both packages sent out to different HBT members last summer).

It stinks but it's not worth begging or arguing over.

Agreed

 

[Psylocide]

 

[Gavin C]

Perhaps you and Remmy have a similar trader. Unlikely but not impossible. I would have though the percentage of traders on HBT who would stiff someone would be really small. Shows my naivete I guess.

The least you should do is post a negative review on his/her itrader. You don't need to be rude or anything else. Just state the facts so others can read and be their own judge. There is no rhyme or reason to this sort of caddish chicanery.

The man is no gentleman.. There I've said it, let the cards fall where they will.

 

[drainbamage]

Perhaps you and Remmy have a similar trader. Unlikely but not impossible. I would have though the percentage of traders on HBT who would stiff someone would be really small. Shows my naivete I guess.

The least you should do is post a negative review on his/her itrader. You don't need to be rude or anything else. Just state the facts so others can read and be their own judge. There is no rhyme or reason to this sort of caddish chicanery.

The man is no gentleman.. There I've said it, let the cards fall where they will.

I don't think it would be possible for the same person to get by with that kind of *********gery for very long on here. I could see someone showing up, creating a throwaway username, and screwing someone over, but doing it repeatedly while maintaining an active presence on the forum is just begging for a public shaming.

 

[balrog]

I don't think it would be possible for the same person to get by with that kind of *********gery for very long on here. I could see someone showing up, creating a throwaway username, and screwing someone over, but doing it repeatedly while maintaining an active presence on the forum is just begging for a public shaming.

Verily. He for himself weaves woe who weaves for others woe, and evil counsel on the counselor recoils.

 

[Psylocide]

Well, finding him was exceptionally easy.

But I'll leave it to @Mexibilly lol.

Edit: based on feedback and who he's traded with in the past, I would have traded with him too.

 

[mkyl428]

Pretty sure I figured this one out, but I still wanna see what happens. If you haven't heard back by now & he's been active on here you probably won't hear from him.

 

[balrog]

If he fails to follow through, we should make him the first recipient of the HBT Razzie Award.

My only thoughts on the award specifics, are that it should be shaped like a carboy with tongs inside it, delivered by @Billy-Klubb.

 

[Psylocide]

If he fails to follow through, we should make him the first recipient of the HBT Razzie Award.

My only thoughts on the award specifics, are that it should be shaped like a carboy with tongs inside it, delivered by @Billy-Klubb.

Dem berries gonna be sooooooore.

 

[1977Brewer]

Dem berries gonna be sooooooore.

Gonna look like Paquiao on the speed bag.


Also, this is why I am hesitant to jump on the trade game. If I buy beer, I wanna drink beer.

 

[drainbamage]

Gonna look like Paquiao on the speed bag.


Also, this is why I am hesitant to jump on the trade game. If I buy beer, I wanna drink beer.

It helps to start off with people you know you can count on. I've only traded with one HBTer (and it went fine), but usually I rely on out-of-town friends that I know I can trust.

That, and if they stiff me I know where to find them.

 

[wobrien]

I always require long form birth certificates and pictures of their family before agreeing to a trade. It's worked for me so far.

 

[Natdavis777]

I always require long form birth certificates and pictures of their family before agreeing to a trade. It's worked for me so far.

So... You've never traded?

Jk

At least include the last 4 of the Soc.

 

[max384]

It was. I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt within a reasonable time frame based on his sharing some issues he had going on. My thing is I have zero experience to know what reasonable is.
This is what I was fishing for, some advice from experienced traders

What issues did he share with you? That may have some bearing here... Maybe...

I'd feel like a d**k if I did that and found out he had a legitimate reason.
That being said, he's been active on here within less than 2 weeks, but no update

This is pretty damning in my opinion. If he logged in here, he has no excuse why he couldn't send you a quick pm at the very least.

I don't think it would be possible for the same person to get by with that kind of *********gery for very long on here. I could see someone showing up, creating a throwaway username, and screwing someone over, but doing it repeatedly while maintaining an active presence on the forum is just begging for a public shaming.

This isn't always true, however. I used to be active on a gun forum, which had a very active trading subforum. One guy, who had done dozens of good trades, and was a known active poster, royally screwed another member out of thousands of dollars. As it turns out, he fell on hard times, and scammed a few members until people caught on, and law enforcement was involved.

 

[max384]

Would this happen to to be the thread that sparked this thread?

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=528051

 

[Remmy]

Wrong thread.

View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1437171896.350401.jpg

 

[PGEduardo]

Sorry to hear op. I recently did my first trade and had a scare where the guy went radio silence for a few days after I shipped. Turns out a personal matter came up but he did ship.

Unfortunately the packaging was insufficient and 10/12 beers leaked and/or got oxidized. Still got hosed on that trade but stuff happens I guess. At least it wasn't malicious intent...

 

[Natdavis777]

Wrong thread.

Looks "rainy" in the background.... I feel ya. Pretty sure a tornado passed through a few hours ago.

 

[Remmy]

Looks "rainy" in the background.... I feel ya. Pretty sure a tornado passed through a few hours ago.

Agreed. Pretty sure the tornado passed through my liver 7 hours ago after crushing the first 3-4 beers.

 

[Natdavis777]

Agreed. Pretty sure the tornado passed through my liver 7 hours ago after crushing the first 3-4 beers.

I got to leave work early today... Give me another hour or two and I will join your liver tornado and see you one...

 

[thatjonguy]

This interests me.