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These hops are pretty unique IMO. I'm not sure if I'll use them again anytime soon, but it was fun to try. I don't think it was a good sub for Tettnag as the label claimed.

It was pretty interesting to see the difference one week made as far as bitterness. At two weeks it was almost undrinkable, and at three it was balanced perfectly. Ever since then I've been more like a 2-2-4 person as opposed to 1-2-3
 
Definitely report in, Magic. I intend on keeping these hops around, and I am eager to hear how everyone is using them. I am thinking about using them as a bender on a Bo Pils sometime soon. It certainly won't be authentic, but I bet it's good.

Im using them in, what I classify as, american ale. Not quite IPA because of the ABV.

Anyway, grain bill was 37% light munich, 25% vienna, 25% bohemian pils, and the remain split between 1lb caramunich and 1lb carapils. I don't sparge too heavily because of equipment restrictions, but it did come in at 1.054 OG and using good ol California Ale yeast.

The fermentation smells spicy through the bubbler. I'll transfer to the carboy this weekend and dry hop with some normal cascades.
 
They came as part of the Northern Brewer "La Saison Noire" kit. 2oz at 60 minutes. Spicy and complex when it went in the bottle a month ago...I'll give updated tasting notes this weekend.
 
OK, tasted my cream ale and my verdict on the Argentine Cascades is that I will not buy them again.

Not much positive in terms of flavor or aroma. I had a feeling what they would be like when I smelled/tasted some out of the bag, and that was pretty much what the end result came out -- a pretty blah hop, in my opinion. Of course, YMMV.

Part of this may be my first experience with cream ale, which is a pretty low-flavor brew by design. But compared to, say, American Cascade, the Argentine hops don't have much to recommend them. I'll probably use up what I have left as a later bittering addition and will definitely combine them with something else.

I used a couple of ounces in a Cream Ale (JZ recipe) as a substitute for Liberty. It is sitting in the primary and once I bottle and taste it I'll have to remember to report back.

I bought these by mistake thinking that they were American Cascade despite the warning on the bag (which I didn't notice at the store).
 
Im using them in, what I classify as, american ale. Not quite IPA because of the ABV.

Anyway, grain bill was 37% light munich, 25% vienna, 25% bohemian pils, and the remain split between 1lb caramunich and 1lb carapils. I don't sparge too heavily because of equipment restrictions, but it did come in at 1.054 OG and using good ol California Ale yeast.

The fermentation smells spicy through the bubbler. I'll transfer to the carboy this weekend and dry hop with some normal cascades.

As a follow up, this beer has a different personality as different drinking temps. When its ice cold, the hops come on very sharply to almost an unlikable harshness. However, when at room temp this beer is GOLDEN! Full body, moderate smooth hop profile and has a wonderful crisp aftertaste.

I'd like to make a beer that is straight argentine, drink it cold/warm and see if the same kind of pattern emerges. Single decoctoion worked really well for this beer, too.
 
you want to taste some argentine cascade in a commercial beer?? try some anchor liberty ale.

my friend proved it to me the other day. the bag of hops and the beer smell the same. i was astonished. they always advertise that it uses "cascade hops"...those evil tricksters. i actually had a few bottles that were too grassy during the hop shortage...i think they switched back to regular cascade or something for a while.

he said he thinks negra modelo also uses them.
 
I used over a QP in a amber. 1 oz FWH, 1 oz 60 min, 1 oz 30 min and 1 oz sprinkled in form 15 min to 5 min. Then I dry hopped it with a half oz. The brew had a harsh bitterness that mellowed quite a bit after 60 days. I grew to really like it and I'm going to make it again soon. I've had many commercial beers that are more harsh but it's probably not best as a bittering hop. Then again I've used it in many other brews and not gotten any thing harsh out of it with just one once or so total.
 
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