Anyone want to take a crack at a Parish Ghost in the Machine clone?

[Beer-lord]

I would like the canebreak recipe as well. I am willing to do a swap of ghost if anyone wants to trade. Non in stock locally right now but I figure it will not be long before pure tropics, nova vert and bloom hit the shelves.

Sure hope so!

 

[jturman35]

 

[brew703]

Ghost used to be a good beer when it was hard to get.

IMO seems like since they started mass producing Ghost the flavor has changed. I assume it's a different yeast they now use and maybe different water profile.

All of Parish Brewing beer is now overpriced. $9-10 a pint and $12/4 pack is insane.

Anyway I'm not a big DIPA drinker but I do hope someone can get close to cloning.

I would think Braufessors NEIPA recipe would be close using all citra and playing with the water profile.

I do know they used all citra and alot of it. Maris otter definitely isn't in the grain bill.

 

[jturman35]

The Ghost on tap is still on point. I’m sure it’s changed over the years but every beer has to adapt to different variations of hop crops from year to year.

I have brewed a 5 gal batch all Citra (6oz) whirlpool and (6oz)dry hop could be pretty close but not orange enough for ghost. There seems to be something in the water that makes this 8.5% so tame. It has a really nice finish that leaves you wanting another sip, not dry and not watery, Not cloying or murky by any means.

 

[Beer-lord]

My understanding from a few people who have asked questions is that they may be continually playing around with different hops, amounts and times. The yeast is still the same from what I'm told.
The game that they and many others across the country are playing with special releases to grab money is a bit concerning but I guess they have to get it where they can.

 

[jturman35]

I have sent the bottle version a month or so old to folks up north and they still seem to think it’s pretty damn good. It’s still holding its own with the big boys in my opinion.

 

[kingmatt]

All of Parish Brewing beer is now overpriced. $9-10 a pint and $12/4 pack is insane.

$12 for a 4 pack of a good Double NEIPA is a steal around my parts! Sadly, I don't even blink at shelling out $20 or more for a 4 pack these days...

 

[225]

The tap room has a double hopped version too. I live in NC but work in Louisiana, wife's from New Iberia (5 miles away).


Next time I'm in town, I'll get a few crowlers for trading if anyone wants to try the DDH version.


The DDH version in front of the brewery.

 

[mullet6577]

The tap room has a double hopped version too. I live in NC but work in Louisiana, wife's from New Iberia (5 miles away).


Next time I'm in town, I'll get a few crowlers for trading if anyone wants to try the DDH version.


The DDH version in front of the brewery.

You have my attention!

 

[brew703]

$12 for a 4 pack of a good Double NEIPA is a steal around my parts! Sadly, I don't even blink at shelling out $20 or more for a 4 pack these days...

I just have a hard time paying that. Anyway, I actually had one Saturday. I dont know what it is but it taste different than the last one I tried (6+ months ago). The one I had Saturday was on tap. It's was pretty damn good vs the one I previously had. Not sure what they changed but it was much better.

 

[brew703]

I also wanted to add since Parish started mass producing this beer, the grocery stores have a hard time selling it. it's sits on the shelf for months. I've seen 4 packs that were 6+ months old.
It's not as sought after as when there were limited quantities.
Just about every brewery in Louisiana is making a DIPA / NEIPA so there are alot more choices now then 3-5 years ago.

 

[225]

I just have a hard time paying that. Anyway, I actually had one Saturday. I dont know what it is but it taste different than the last one I tried (6+ months ago). The one I had Saturday was on tap. It's was pretty damn good vs the one I previously had. Not sure what they changed but it was much better.

Ghost used to be a seasonal beer. Now they make it full time. I'm sure they nailed down a recipe for mass production.

You have my attention!

Next time I go I'll get feelers.

 

[jturman35]

Do you guys think they use Pilsner as the base malt?

 

[brew703]

I think the biggest thing they do is water chemistry. I doubt they use any boil hops. I would think all hops go in a WP then massive DH additions.
As for as malt, I would not be surprised if some of their grain bill is Pilsner. I have to assume there is alot of flaked wheat and some oats although I do not get a creamy texture.

 

[225]

Burial beer on their West Coast IPA (surf Wax IPA, very similar to Ghost.) uses a Pilsner base malt. That would be my guess too. Next time I'm in there I'll ask if I can get a clone recipe, or ballpark on one.

Back when NOLA Brewing had their original head brewer, he gave me all the clone recipes to their beers. But I lost them, and now they're not so friendly.

 

[brew703]

There is a recipe in one of the Craft Beer and Brewing Magazine for Acadiana Haze. It's a recipe by Parish Brewing. Taste wise it's nothing like Ghost as the hops used is not Citra but the color and taste is good. Might be a good base to start with and just go with all Citra hops.
I'm pretty sure they use some amount of Pilsner Malt so maybe a 50/50 split of 2 Row and Pilsner would be a good start.

 

[Beer-lord]

Not Ghost but tomorrow they are releasing a year-around beer called Dr. Juice (I think there might be other companies in the US with this name). They claim it's 'crushable' at 6% which, for Parish, is low ABV. Here's their description but I've heard from someone who knows someone, yada, yada, yada, that it might be considered a baby Ghost:

The Doctor is in. Introducing your new go-to IPA, Dr. Juice is a highly crushable juice bomb. Dry hopped with a blend of our favorite hand selected hops from the Yakima Valley, Dr. Juice’s drinkability is sneaky good considering it clocks in at 6% ABV. The pour glows a rich cantaloupe hue with a thick, frosted haze and soft mouthfeel. Aroma and taste is full of passion fruit, papaya, and blood orange, making it drink like a glass of freshly squeezed juice.

And I think it's supposed to be $10-12 for a 6 pack.

 

[brew703]

Not Ghost but tomorrow they are releasing a year-around beer called Dr. Juice (I think there might be other companies in the US with this name). They claim it's 'crushable' at 6% which, for Parish, is low ABV. Here's their description but I've heard from someone who knows someone, yada, yada, yada, that it might be considered a baby Ghost:

The Doctor is in. Introducing your new go-to IPA, Dr. Juice is a highly crushable juice bomb. Dry hopped with a blend of our favorite hand selected hops from the Yakima Valley, Dr. Juice’s drinkability is sneaky good considering it clocks in at 6% ABV. The pour glows a rich cantaloupe hue with a thick, frosted haze and soft mouthfeel. Aroma and taste is full of passion fruit, papaya, and blood orange, making it drink like a glass of freshly squeezed juice.

And I think it's supposed to be $10-12 for a 6 pack.

Yeah I saw that- Hoping to pick up a 6 pack when it makes it to my neck of the woods.

 

[225]

Not Ghost but tomorrow they are releasing a year-around beer called Dr. Juice (I think there might be other companies in the US with this name). They claim it's 'crushable' at 6% which, for Parish, is low ABV. Here's their description but I've heard from someone who knows someone, yada, yada, yada, that it might be considered a baby Ghost:

The Doctor is in. Introducing your new go-to IPA, Dr. Juice is a highly crushable juice bomb. Dry hopped with a blend of our favorite hand selected hops from the Yakima Valley, Dr. Juice’s drinkability is sneaky good considering it clocks in at 6% ABV. The pour glows a rich cantaloupe hue with a thick, frosted haze and soft mouthfeel. Aroma and taste is full of passion fruit, papaya, and blood orange, making it drink like a glass of freshly squeezed juice.

And I think it's supposed to be $10-12 for a 6 pack.

I bet they are making something less aggressive than Ghost and making something close to Juicifer by Garnly Barley.

 

[brew703]

I bet they are making something less aggressive than Ghost and making something close to Juicifer by Garnly Barley.

Or even Voodoo by Tin Roof, which is also very good.

 

[Beer-lord]

I also wonder if the fact that Dixie is coming out with 2 hazy type beers that are supposed to be year round had something to do with this.
Envie is somewhat the same though the last few batches weren't as good to my taste buds.
I try to keep Ghost in my fridge all the time but it's very expensive. Heck, I can't even drink all the beer I brew!

 

[225]

Or even Voodoo by Tin Roof, which is also very good.

I haven't tried Voodoo. I live in Asheville now, so I stop by the store on the way home and pick up a few.

I work on a boat in NOLA area.

I also wonder if the fact that Dixie is coming out with 2 hazy type beers that are supposed to be year round had something to do with this.
Envie is somewhat the same though the last few batches weren't as good to my taste buds.
I try to keep Ghost in my fridge all the time but it's very expensive. Heck, I can't even drink all the beer I brew!

Amen to that.

 

[jturman35]

Voodoo is ok, Juicifer on tap is really good. I do see Ghost all over the place now where I live, but’s it’s usually 3-6months old.

 

[brew703]

Voodoo is ok, Juicifer on tap is really good. I do see Ghost all over the place now where I live, but’s it’s usually 3-6months old.

I prefer Holy Roller vs Juicifer. I still drink both when i can find it on tap.

 

[brew703]

I also wonder if the fact that Dixie is coming out with 2 hazy type beers that are supposed to be year round had something to do with this.
Envie is somewhat the same though the last few batches weren't as good to my taste buds.
I try to keep Ghost in my fridge all the time but it's very expensive. Heck, I can't even drink all the beer I brew!

I'll be at Dixie end of the month so looking forward to trying what they have.

 

[225]

In my fridge in Asheville, NC.

The other beer is Hi-Wire 10w40 King Cake stout. Talk about good.

 

[BrewerDave504]

I'm in the Nola area and was told they use hop oil in the secondary. A friend toured the place (im getting around to it) and the brewers left the recipe chart for Canebreak out in the open (he snapped a pic!). So, I will be in search of the Ghost chart once I make it there. More curious about their bittering hops. Could probably sort out the rest. PS, im drink one as i type. Cheers.

Hey man, do you still have access to that canebrake chart? Looking to brew a gluten free version.

 

[dirty_martini]

I’ve drank a bunch of GITM. One of the few hazy DIPAs I will consistently drink. All Citra hopped (maybe some hop extract for bittering). I’ve heard they use flaked oats and golden naked oats, but not wheat in their hazies, but I wouldnt say it was a reliable source. More hearsay and rumors. If I had to guess a recipe based on what I’ve read and the rumors I heard, it would likely be something like:

75% 2row
15% flaked oats
5% golden naked oats
5% carapils/carafoam
Minor bittering addition. Something like 20-30IBUs. Probably a hop extract
Heavy whirlpool. Likely 1.5-2#/bbl Citra. 4-6oz for 5.5-6g batch
London III. Ferment at 68F. Raise to 72 towards end to help finish.
Dryhop with 4-5#/bbl 80/20 Citra (maybe blended with some citra cryo or incognito for yield). Probably around 12-14oz for 5.5-6g batch to yield 5g. Split dry hop. Half during active ferment during last 10pts of gravity. Second dry hop 3 days later. Dry hop 3 more days.
SG 1.079-1.081
FG 1.015-1.017
IBUs 50-60 (it’s a DIPA. this won’t taste bitter and GITM is so drinkable, I think there’s enough for balance so it isn’t flabby)
Water: chloride/sulfate 150:100

 

[skibb]

Has anyone degassed this beer to see its FG? That's always a good place to start - if they list ABV you will know what OG to shoot for.

 

[skibb]

So, I randomly had some delivered to me - I'm not sure what the hype is about (it wasn't bad by any means). I took the liberty of degassing and testing it -

FG: 1.014 (which would put OG at 1.078 for 8.5% ABV)
pH: 4.6 (pretty typical)

I also had their anniversary IPA and that was pretty great at 11% ABV. In its description they mention using oats and raw wheat - so I feel like there is a good chance they use those in GITM too