Amarillo + Citra + Simcoe = GROSS

[L8_Additions]

That's a big bunch of hops, good combination, and all C's.
I see you're new here... How does your hop list fit in this thread? There's no mention of Simcoe or Amarillo...
Or are you purposefully omitting those?

Just suggesting a tried and true combination for the OP! (and others)

 

[CascadesBrewer]

This thread almost makes me want to brew a Amarillo + Citra + Simcoe batch! I could see that combo being solid of the new-old-school American hops. But, I have a ton of Amarillo and Centennial that I need to put to use (probably 2.5 lbs of each, plus another 1.5 lbs of Warrior).

In my experience over the years, Amarillo can be quite variable. I picked up some 1 lb bags of Amarillo and Centennial from a local brewer that was closing, then the next month my homebrew club got some 11 lb bags of Amarillo, Centennial and Warrior from a brewery that was clearing out last year's stock.

My return to the drawing board is going to pick up with the more pine focused hops. I think I'm going Apollo, Chinook and Cascade.

Sounds like a good combo. I have really likes some batches of an IPA with Columbus on the hot side, with Centennial and Chinook in the late boil and dry hop. Some batches have been better than others, and I am not sure how much is me or the quality of the hops I used.

 

[Bobby_M]

The more I think about it, and research, I think one of the problems is that my whirlpool/hopstand was too cold. I'm not saying I wouldn't have gotten overripe peach at all, but I think the cold stand extracted more fruit and less pine/citrus.

 

[Squelch]

I believe I've brewed enough hazy NEIPA to be comfortable with my grain bills and two-hop combos, and I have a few medals to back that up. I've never really brewed a classic non-hazy IPA that knocked my socks off. I started down the road of making that a project. I figured one good place to start was Meanbrews. If you're not familiar, it's an analysis of many medal winning recipes and it's an attempt to engineer the perfect recipe. The hop combo as stated in the title is what came out of it.

Holy crap, I hate it. I've used each of those hops in other beers in various other combinations and they were fine but that trio specifically makes a sickingly sweet, overripe peach and apricot bomb. Amarillo and Citra already bring the apricot, but something about the catty, dankness of Simcoe makes it go all wrong.

Has anyone tried this combo and found the same thing? Maybe you like it? What other combos have you tried that seemed like they should work but absolutely did not?

My return to the drawing board is going to pick up with the more pine focused hops. I think I'm going Apollo, Chinook and Cascade.

keep in mind simcoe has signifigant terrior and varies year to year. Recent years of simcoe has lost its punch imho. Feel free to play with the hops, however, this recipe did do well with the judges and got a medal in Australia's version of NHC.

 

[Bobby_M]

keep in mind simcoe has signifigant terrior and varies year to year. Recent years of simcoe has lost its punch imho. Feel free to play with the hops, however, this recipe did do well with the judges and got a medal in Australia's version of NHC.

Certainly no shade being thrown on the recipe or data that drove it. I almost put it into a local competition to show how it was likely a judge favorite despite my distaste for the combo but I had 5 other better options and there was an entry cap.

 

[L8_Additions]

I've got a west coast IPA coming up with

Hops (340 g)​

30 g (28 IBU) — Citra 12% — Boil — 30 min

10 g (8 IBU) — Centennial 10% — Boil — 30 min

60 g (8 IBU) — Centennial 10% — Aroma — 20 min hopstand @ 175 °F

60 g (10 IBU) — Citra 12% — Aroma — 20 min hopstand

30 g (2 IBU) — Cascade 5.5% — Aroma — 20 min hopstand @ 175 °F

60 g — Centennial 10% — Dry Hop — day 5

60 g — Citra 12% — Dry Hop — day 5

30 g — Cascade 5.5% — Dry Hop — day 5

This one is my wife's new favorite! She's definitely my toughest critic.
A lot of that classic IPA hop character without the caramelly sweet flavors.
Recipe:
American IPA all grain, 6 gallons into fermenter
6.7% / 15 °P

Malts (16 lb)​

11 lb (68.8%) — Rahr Pale Malt, 2-Row — Grain — 1.9 °L
5 lb (31.3%) — Briess Bonlander Vienna Malt — Grain — 3.5 °L

Hops (340 g)​

30 g (28 IBU) — Citra 12% — Boil — 30 min
10 g (8 IBU) — Centennial 10% — Boil — 30 min
60 g (8 IBU) — Centennial 10% — Aroma — 20 min hopstand @ 175 °F
60 g (10 IBU) — Citra 12% — Aroma — 20 min hopstand @ 175 °F
30 g (2 IBU) — Cascade 5.5% — Aroma — 20 min hopstand @ 175 °F
60 g — Centennial 10% — Dry Hop — day 5
60 g — Citra 12% — Dry Hop — day 5
30 g — Cascade 5.5% — Dry Hop — day 5
8 grams gypsum
4 grams CaSO4

Yeast​

200 billion cells — Fermentis W-34/70 Saflager Lager 83%

Fermentation​

ferment — 65 °F — 7 days
clarify — 34 °F — 2 days
carbonate / condition — 45 °F — 7 days

 

[Deadalus]

I've got a NEIPA I brew with Simcoe, Centennial, Citra, and Pacifica. The Simcoe and Centennials are 10 minute additions, whirlpool all four in about even amounts at 165F for 20 minutes, then first dry hop all four equally and second dry hop slightly heavier on the Simcoe and Citra and lighter on the Pacifica. Definitely citrusy, haven't brewed it in 2 years until recently and that batch is almost done. I switched the Centennials in after first using Cascades as I wanted less grapefruit flavor.