Am I a Loser?

[Rotgut]

When I run out of good brew I drink my stash of TJ's Simpler Times Lager (Minhas Craft Brewery) that I keep set aside for making beer bread. $2.99 a 6-pack and really isn't bad at all. It's not fantastic but works in a pinch and is 6.2% abv to boot.

 

[munche]

I always fill a big 32oz mug of Miller High Life while I'm brewing. I call it brew fuel.

 

[Indyking]

I'm just the opposite, haven't touched a Budweiser in years, recently had one and liked it. I keep an occasional 6 pack around, and enjoy a few here and there.

It's really pointless to argue someone's taste, it just is.


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And that's perfectly fine, some people do actually like Buds... and it is pointless discussing about taste, I concur.

And I wish I enjoyed BMCs as much as some others do, because it is sometimes cheaper to just buy a Natty or other cheaper BMC than brew my own craft at home... but, fortunately to my hobby, I can not stand their generic watery taste with corn sweetness sticking in the mouthfeel...

 

[gunner65]

I always fill a big 32oz mug of Miller High Life while I'm brewing. I call it brew fuel.

I like to "live the life" on occasion too.

 

[wolverinebrewer]

Shawshank Redemption?

Absolutely! It's one of my favorites.......Now, drink up ladies!

 

[Poobah58]

There's a little redneck in all of us!

 

[msarro]

There's nothing wrong with Bud. Its not big on flavor, and honestly InBev is a corporate monster that I try to avoid. However they have a consistent product that a lot of people like, made from breweries all over the world. Think about it... breweries all over the world, all using different water, shipping out a product that is darn near indistinguishable from any of the other breweries. That's kind of awesome. And the lack of flavor has a rich history behind it... its created by two world wars, prohibition, and a depression. Its not great, but its better than nothing

(God if I had written this before I started reading about beer history I would have smacked myself)

 

[Indyking]

There's nothing wrong with Bud.

Yes, except they are not an American company despite of the constant associations with American culture...

 

[msarro]

Yes, except they are not an American company despite of the constant associations with American culture...

I'm not sure where/when they were incorporated. I know when August Busch was still in charge it was primarily brewed in the US, their Corporate HQ are in St. Louis, and it still has something like a 50% market share. Walking like a duck and quacking like a duck

 

[Acoma]

I dont think you are a loser. A loser wouldnt have anything.

 

[Indyking]

I'm not sure where/when they were incorporated. I know when August Busch was still in charge it was primarily brewed in the US, their Corporate HQ are in St. Louis, and it still has something like a 50% market share. Walking like a duck and quacking like a duck

InBev, who owns the Bud brand is 0% American now... its a Brazilian-Belgian company... only their American headquarters is in St Louis.

 

[msarro]

InBev, who owns the Bud brand is 0% American now... its a Brazilian-Belgian company... only their American headquarters is in St Louis.

Ah, ok. I know Busch got ousted when InBev took them over, I didn't know that all the brewing got moved elsewhere.

 

[doctorRobert]

InBev, who owns the Bud brand is 0% American now... its a Brazilian-Belgian company... only their American headquarters is in St Louis.

How are you defining that? Ownership? Employees? Sales? Still a very american company amd nothing wrong with being global

 

[Indyking]

How are you defining that? Ownership? Employees? Sales? Still a very american company amd nothing wrong with being global

Ownership of course. Saying Anheuser Busch is an American company is the same of saying that Walmart is a Brazilian company since it employs thousands in Brazil. In fact, I know proud Bud fans that got pretty upset when AB got sold to the Brazilian-Belgian giant...

 

[TTB-J]

How are you defining that? Ownership? Employees? Sales? Still a very american company amd nothing wrong with being global

Hard to say. Their global headquarters is in Belgium. They produce about 1/3 of their beer in North America (that includes plants in Canada and Cuba). Their number one brand is Budweiser, with Stella Artois and Beck's close behind. I don't think I would call them "very American," because they have a truly global footprint and well over half of their production comes from outside the U S of A.

 

[doctorRobert]

Ownership of course. Saying Anheuser Busch is an American company is the same of saying that Walmart is a Brazilian company since it employs thousands in Brazil. In fact, I know proud Bud fans that got pretty upset when AB got sold to the Brazilian-Belgian giant...

Well if walmart had most of it sales in brazil than maybe. But inbev's largest market is the US and 46 percent of inbev is free float shares, mostly US mutual funds. Give it a few years and it'll be majority owned by us shareholders, despite being registered and headquartered abroad.

 

[Indyking]

Hard to say. Their global headquarters is in Belgium. They produce about 1/3 of their beer in North America (that includes plants in Canada and Cuba). Their number one brand is Budweiser, with Stella Artois and Beck's close behind. I don't think I would call them "very American," because they have a truly global footprint and well over half of their production comes from outside the U S of A.

Yes, there is all that plus ownership, which is not American. Also, I think Skoll (their best selling beer in Brazil) is their number 2 beer in sales overall, and I suspect Bhrama, number 2 in Brazil, and also from InBev sells more or pretty close to Stella Artois and Beck's.

 

[arturo7]

Somewhat OT.

There are always more than a few Cubs fans in attendance at Cardinals games. Apparently, at a game not long after the announcement, a group of Cubs fans began chanting, "IIInnn Beeevvvv, IIInnn Beeevvvv."

Bastards

 

[certaut]

to each his own

 

[Gameface]

You may not like the flavor or style of Budweiser beer, but I don't think it's fair to say it's low quality. Consistency is a large component of quality and I think Budweisers consistency is unquestionable.

Also, believe it or not, not all beer drinkers want a big bodied flavorful beer. Budweiser is crisp, clean and ultra-clear with no offensive or overwhelming flavors. Some people consider that the ideal.

This debate is sort of like a scotch drinker telling a vodka drinker that vodka sucks because it lacks the flavor and complexity of a fine aged scotch.

To each their own indeed.

btw, since I started brewing 8 months ago I haven't touched a BMC and have no plans to anytime soon.

 

[Indyking]

I think it is fair to say BMCs are low quality because they add adjuncts (cheap syrups) as a source of fermentable sugars, so they can optimize profits. The famous German purity law prohibits that. The so-clear appearance of BMCs is not a measure of quality, to the contrary, if you go to Beer advocate, color is one of the features they measure and BMCs get pretty low scores on it. Consistency is also not a feature of quality. One can consistently produce a poor quality product. Fast food chains consistently produce high-fat burgers and they amazingly have the same amount of fat whether made here or in the other side if the world!

Having said that, taste is not a matter of discussion.... One can perfectly like BMCs... That's just fine and I respect it!

 

[msarro]

FYI as far as I know AB wasn't willingly sold. In fact in press conferences they assured people that the company wasn't at risk for such a thing. Then InBev bought 51% of their shares and the rest is history. Check out "Beer is Proof God Loves Us." Awesome book

 

[DaveMcPhee]

I think it is fair to say BMCs are low quality because they add adjuncts (cheap syrups) as a source of fermentable sugars

I add adjuncts to my beer, what are you saying?

The famous German purity law prohibits that.

German purity law also prohibits wheat. Ever heard of german wheat beer? yeah. Ever had a rye ale? Illegal under the law. Limiting yourself to anything but taste is a mistake. Saying you don't like bud because it tastes bad is fine. Saying you don't like it because it violates a hundred year old law designed to stifle foreign competition, is just odd. Unless... you secretly love bud ?!? BUD LOVER WE HAVE A BUD LOVER OVER HERE FOLKS

 

[doctorRobert]

Laganitus uses hop extract too. But its ****in delicious who cares. Everyone uses adjuncts! How else do you prime

 

[doctorRobert]

FYI as far as I know AB wasn't willingly sold. In fact in press conferences they assured people that the company wasn't at risk for such a thing. Then InBev bought 51% of their shares and the rest is history. Check out "Beer is Proof God Loves Us." Awesome book

It was actually a friendly take over when all was said and done. AB sucessfully fought offer a hostile bid but inbev upped their offer to an amount they couldn't refuse.

 

[bmason1623]

So, as I was brewing my second of two beers this weekend my keg tapped out. So I was forced to drink Budweiser during the duration of the brew. Please don't shun me or diss-own me for this, I'm still an ok guy!

Turn in your man card.

JK

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[doctorRobert]

Charlie Bamforth also preaches tolerance of everybody tastes, and especially that of bmc.

 

[bigbopper]

Did you shotgun it?

lol,i shotgunned a coors lite this summer just to shut upthe rookies @ a golf outing.

 

[msarro]

lol,i shotgunned a coors lite this summer just to shut upthe rookies @ a golf outing.

You know, if you needed seltzer water you could have just gone to the club house...

 

[gunner65]

Charlie Bamforth also preaches tolerance of everybody tastes, and especially that of bmc.

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