All Group Buy Participants - NCM Price Change
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kosmokramer
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I hear their ads all the time on the BN...def think they ship although I have never checked them out.
Honestly, I have a love/hate relationship with buying online. there is the convenience and most places have an easy search feature, but I hate when i found out a few days to weeks later that something is out of stock. Very annoying. My biggest problem is just making it to the HBS stores during the hours they are open - gotta plan ahead
I think the hop business is scattered enough that it will not happen. With malt there are only a few big players and the barrier to entry is large. With hops not so much.
dbrewski
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Still waiting...
jeffb418
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Well that's great that NCM will work with LHBS to pull off bulk buys, but one issue... none of the HBS around me have accounts with NCM =/
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CidahMastah
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exactly. Looks like back to the drawing board for us. I am certainly not convinced until I see numbers.
Nice idea, but I would suggest to NCM to set up things before turning off the juice (this feels like a stall tactic). They still aren't making me feel warm and fuzzy inside. Like Jeff said, many LHBS' don't utilize NCM....
sorry, in looking for something else in this thread I just realized that this should have been addressed to bobbym
problem for me is there is no LHBS that is even remotely convinent for me.
bkl63
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ON the wholesale side of things NCM is a bit pricy, when Michigan Brewing Co was in business they were selling sacks of Briess 2Row for around 25.00. I have even bought Cargill 20L 6-row for 20.00 for a sack at a local Brewery. It can be a WIN/WIN situation for a Small Brewery to offer bags of grain which could help to move them up to a better discount level.
I've been following these threads since this thing blew-up. I'm not trying to defend the LHBS because, I too, think they are way over-pricing grain. But I did want to bring up the fact that Briess is not without blame. Anybody who has been buying in bulk from NCM for any length of time will recall that up until this year, Briess malt was not available....period. NCM would not sell Briess products to homebrewer accounts period. Now they are basically priced so high that no one will buy Briess even though it is available. It's no coincidence that Briess is probably by far the most popular grain stocked in LHBS. But anyway, it is what it is. The price of grain just went up. Homebrewers will have to deal with it.
Ahh i haven't been on it in a few months. I guess it would seem they have added sales. Makes sense.
My LHBS is not really easy to get too either
zmad2000
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I work at a import company and we are getting in product from Germany. I inquired about getting grain and just got the pricing. It would be around $45 for a 55lb sack (might be a little lower) of Pils and $50 for Munich or Vienna with a minimum of 30 sacks per variety. Its not really better than CMG but its a possible alternative. If anybody is interested i could put together a group buy.
Edit: This would be pickup in North Jersey
Edit: This would be pickup in North Jersey
We are back in business in MD, halfway through round 2 since the "grain embargo". Wondering if any other group buys are still going on? I combed through posts and looks like only one or two of the group buys is still alive...that sucks!
The LHBS will have to charge tax and whatnot, at a minimum, but I think this is a fair solution. Locally here, I know a LHBS that offered to do it "for nothing" just to get people to come into the store for pick-up! Those people may also want a few pounds of specialty malts, yeast, hops, bungs, etc that will help drive loyalty and business to them in the future.
unfortunately, I don't think they have the warehouse/dock space to accommodate 10,000+# orders on a bimonthly basis, but the sentiment is reasonable and fair, IMO.
i'm down with that plan except for that last part. i wouldn't say "boycott", that seems retaliatory. instead i'd point out that folks are naturally going to be more loyal to the place that will accommodate the group buy, will be dropping in for additional supplies, etc... you know, that whole honey/vinegar thing.
I think that everyone should stand a picket line around all the LHBS
bmason1623
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10,000 lbs? try 25,000 lbs (477 sacks). that's a lot of grain to unload from a truck and haul into their store one sack at a time.
Has anyone dealt with GW Kent I was thinking about giving them a try ?
All the best
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jeffb418
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They are decent. Limited on selection, no MO options. They require loading dock for delivery of pallets. And shipping prices are slightly higher than NCM. No shipping discount for multiple pallets like NCM would offer. Just be clear with your order upfront.
They do offer Gambrinus ESB Malt which I've read is suppose to be similar to Marris Otter.
I boycotted the Brewcraft table at the NHC 2013 Expo in protest of NCM stopping shipments to our group buys. Saw very little traffic at their table...
was there an NCM sticker in our goodie bag? i ended up with one, and i avoided the NCM table like the plague.
i had half a mind to go tell them, very politely, that i disagreed with their recent decisions to stop selling directly to group buys but i didn't want to be that negative in what was otherwise the happiest place on earth (IMO). besides, those folks behind the table likely had nothing to do with the decision and were even more likely to be powerless to do anything about it.
I checked on Cargill and their pricing is about $.07 to $.10 a pound more and shipping is about double what NCM is.
