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[Helly]

Anyone know much about laying tile?

****ing wife doesn't like the vinyl tile that we put down last year... wants ceramic.

Is it as easy as just attaching a backerboard to the floor and laying tile right over that? I don't want to replace the subfloor, but pretty sure I need to put something down.

I've done a fair amount. While you can lay tile on plywood it will turn out much better if you get 1/4" backer board. Screw that down nice and flat, mortar the joints, and start from there. I've only ever had one tile crack on me and that was when we used 47 cent per sq ft close out special. Take your time with prep work and laying everything out dry and install will not be too bad.

 

[BGBC]

You don't know me well enough I guess. No need to be nice, I'd give the shirt off my back to my worst enemy. Just ask. In this case however, @finsfan and @psylocide made me feel so stupid for using nugget that I cleaned out my freezer and burnt the entire crop last weekend. I can send some next year.

Hoping for better results from next year's crop?

Are you trying out any other varieties this year?

That's the biggest mental block for me right now... how do you deal with that? Obviously the tile itself is going to be ~1/4" thicker. With the backer board it might be getting close to a 1/2" - 3/4"?

Seems like a lot of added height.

What room is it in? Depending on the existing transition, you'll just need a transition strip to account for the added height

 

[Hello]

Anyone know much about laying tile?

****ing wife doesn't like the vinyl tile that we put down last year... wants ceramic.

Is it as easy as just attaching a backerboard to the floor and laying tile right over that? I don't want to replace the subfloor, but pretty sure I need to put something down.

That's the biggest mental block for me right now... how do you deal with that? Obviously the tile itself is going to be ~1/4" thicker. With the backer board it might be getting close to a 1/2" - 3/4"?

Seems like a lot of added height.



I don't know anyone like that, to my knowledge.

I laid travertine in my powder room. There were two layers of vinyl and a 1/8" thick wood sheeting and then tile. I pulled it all up as there was evidence of a water leak. I also, though there is no tub/shower in the bathroom, wanted to use concrete backer board.

If you're adding over vinyl then yes, backer board is needed. I would pull off the baseboards/molding for sure. The previous owners didn't do that in my place. The added height should not be a huge issue as you can get one of the adjustable threshold transitions. If you are knocking on the door of 3/4" though, I'd be tearing stuff up/out.

The issue I had with laying tile was merely one caused by myself. A screw was not all the way set into the backer. It was at best a hair above it, but it wouldn't drive in any more. I thought I would be able to work with it, but natural tile like that is weird and it did crack. Luckily it was in a place I could pull out easily, not right in the center of the floor. Make damn sure all screws are in and 100% flush. Run your finger over each one. If you feel any difference, fix it.

I back-buttered my tile, that is the way YouTube taught me (really). Everything is quite straight in spite of using the drywall as my guide. The walls are not square at all.

 

[Helly]

If only you knew someone that installed floors in million dollar homes for two years. Someone close, but not too close.. a person you could trust. That you talk to online. On a brewing forum. Man. That would be so convenient for you.

My house is nice but it didn't cost a million dollars.

 

[Psylocide]

Hoping for better results from next year's crop?

Are you trying out any other varieties this year?



What room is it in? Depending on the existing transition, you'll just need a transition strip to account for the added height

Bathroom. So there's the toilet, tub, vanity, etc. to deal with.

 

[finsfan]

Oh, by the way.. thanks a lot. Had a dream about brewing a hoppy red last night. Don't think I've ever had beer dreams until now. Your fault.

That being said, I'd vote a super balanced Amber. The one beer (non-IPA) that made the most impact on me was by Hop City when I went on my honeymoon. Again, could've been a swayed opinion given the situation I was in at the time.. but it was the most balanced beer I've ever had. All the bartender cared to tell me was that it was Hop City. Looking at reviews, I'm pretty sure it might have been Barking Squirrel.

edit: Got a text from a friend I don't talk to often, last night. Said my "Your beer is delicious!!!" Wtf was he talking about? Then remembered I left him a 6pk of my saison on New Years and he apparently just found them last night in back of his fridge. Guess it's better than, "drinkable" or "diseased".

Quit having dreams about me, weirdo! Also, glad your friend isn't hospitalized yet.

Bottling an Irish red tonight. The first one I made about 4 years ago wasn't good all. Being new to water chemistry at the time I wanted to duplicate Dublins water to make it "authentic". Apparently Dublin water isn't suitable for brewing let alone drinking. Finally got the nerve to rebrew with an appropriate water profile. Pre and post boil samples tasted promising. If it is good going into bottles I will share the recipe and water profile.

Let me know what you think about it. I really dont want a malt bomb that i wont be able to drink.

I think 'amazing irish red' might be an oxymoron.







Imperial flanders red!







Imperial flanders red!

Haha so a Flanders maybe?

Hoppy amber? You could try this (I can't speak to the recipe myself though):



http://www.keystonehomebrew.com/201...roegs-brewing-company-hersey-pa/#.VrIdOzaEBug



and maybe if you're nice you can ask CAD for some nugget hops.

Not sure i want anymore of my friends passing, especially just from hops, thats lame.

I've always wanted to do the Raging Irish Red recipe on here. The 001 and Cascade it calls for makes me think it's a more Americanized version.

Thats the recipe i had looking into here. Doesnt look half bad.

 

[TheCADJockey]

I don't know anyone like that, to my knowledge.

That's a shame. Well then I'd suggest taking bits and pieces of peoples opinions from DIY projects, ask the old guy that can barely stand at Home Depot, and just Google a whole bunch of stuff..

ie:

 

[m00ps]

That's a shame. Well then I'd suggest taking bits and pieces of peoples opinions from DIY projects, ask the old guy that can barely stand at Home Depot, and just Google a whole bunch of stuff..

ie:

whats up with that one tile pattern? I think the dude that installed that had the dumb

also, nice converses *******

 

[TheCADJockey]

Hoping for better results from next year's crop?
Are you trying out any other varieties this year?

My crop is pretty amazing, actually. I'm considering planting a new variety this year to see how well it grows, yeah. I can not decide what kind though. Our shop is taking rhizome orders now I think.

 

[DisturbdChemist]

Coffee.. Love last minute testing. Probably have to stay late today.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

That's a shame. Well then I'd suggest taking bits and pieces of peoples opinions from DIY projects, ask the old guy that can barely stand at Home Depot, and just Google a whole bunch of stuff..

ie:

oops!

 

[Psylocide]

That's a shame. Well then I'd suggest taking bits and pieces of peoples opinions from DIY projects, ask the old guy that can barely stand at Home Depot, and just Google a whole bunch of stuff..

Yeah... all the vinyl is going to come up, I'll put 1/4" concrete backer board on the subfloor, attach it with staples and gorilla glue the tiles down. Then I'll just use caulk instead of grout.

Sound right?

 

[BGBC]

My crop is pretty amazing, actually. I'm considering planting a new variety this year to see how well it grows, yeah. I can not decide what kind though. Our shop is taking rhizome orders now I think.

Haven't looked at what grows well in your area, but I'd go for a multi-use standard, ie Cascade or Columbus

 

[Gavin C]

Yeah... all the vinyl is going to come up, I'll put 1/4" concrete backer board on the subfloor, attach it with staples and gorilla glue the tiles down. Then I'll just use caulk instead of grout.

Sound right?

Just gorilla glue them to the vinyl. Use loads so you don't need grout. Makes it portable too. Should you tire of the pattern lift it up and have it tailored to a cermic vinyl house coat for the missus.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Haven't looked at what grows well in your area, but I'd go for a multi-use standard, ie Cascade or Columbus

Those are the two I was leaning towards if I can find them. Where I grow them, they have full exposure to sun and room to grow almost indefinitely. I don't even maintain the nugget and it grows thick with huge crop yield. Not sure I'd get that lucky with another plant, but would be nice.

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

Yeah... all the vinyl is going to come up, I'll put 1/4" concrete backer board on the subfloor, attach it with staples and gorilla glue the tiles down. Then I'll just use caulk instead of grout.

Sound right?

you can value engineer the project using 1/4" lauan

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Off topic...
Last of mango hard lemonaid (background bucket with raspberry hard lemonaid ready to roll) and the carb, ready to bottle bourbon imperial stout. Light bourbon. It's ok.

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[BGBC]

Those are the two I was leaning towards if I can find them. Where I grow them, they have full exposure to sun and room to grow almost indefinitely. I don't even maintain the nugget and it grows thick with huge crop yield. Not sure I'd get that lucky with another plant, but would be nice.

If you get more than one variety, you might have to do a little more maintenance (or make sure they're sufficiently separated). If they start intertwining, separating them at harvest could be a b*tch.

 

[DrunkleJon]

Me me me! Yay! No keg was dropped on my toe though.
The story I was given was I stubbed my toe and said excuse me while crashing to the ground. Picture an elephant falling over a tree trunk and that's what happened.

Last time I did that I was carrying my favorite mug and had been filling it with rum/sodas. I thought I could jump down a whole half foot but was not coordinated enough to stick the landing. Skinned my elbow, both knees and shattered my favorite mug. Was a sad occurance. Worst thing is I had the brilliant idea of putting a paper towel on the skinned knees and elbow and passed out that way. Was not fun detaching them in the morning.

Anyone know much about laying tile?

****ing wife doesn't like the vinyl tile that we put down last year... wants ceramic.

Is it as easy as just attaching a backerboard to the floor and laying tile right over that? I don't want to replace the subfloor, but pretty sure I need to put something down.

Yes, my suggestion is don't do it. It sucks. Just finished my kitchen. Hateful task. But I would suggest that if you do that you look in to the lash system for spacing. They make leveling the tiles much easier than those damn x's. Also, pick out larger tiles so that you dont have to lay as many. And thirdly, make sure that the room is square and that the surface you are laying the tile on is level. Will save you heaps of cussing and frustration.

The orange underlayment is kinda nice too. Follow the directions on sticking it down to the surface though and have something, cardboard, kneepads or something to protect your knees.

 

[TheCADJockey]

If you get more than one variety, you might have to do a little more maintenance (or make sure they're sufficiently separated). If they start intertwining, separating them at harvest could be a b*tch.

Nah I'll either put them in another row (have 50 acres to work with) or build a hops garden by the pond finally. Whatever my parents would prefer. My mom loves the garden and my dad loves the beer he gets from them so its a win/win either way.

 

[DisturbdChemist]

All this bottling reminds me to bottle a batch this weekend.

 

[Floored]

Anyone know much about laying tile?

****ing wife doesn't like the vinyl tile that we put down last year... wants ceramic.

Is it as easy as just attaching a backerboard to the floor and laying tile right over that? I don't want to replace the subfloor, but pretty sure I need to put something down.

That's how I make a living. If you weren't so damn far away we could trade labor for beer.

I normally pull the vinyl and luan and use 1/2" cement board on the subfloor. Make sure you mortar and screw the 1/4" and you'll be fine. You can use cheap unmodified mortar under the board but get some better stuff for the tile.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

The hipsters in Philly are going crazy today...

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

The hipsters in Philly are going crazy today...

This explains the disturbance I felt in the force. I'm not far from Northern Liberties, aka Hipster Haven.

 

[finsfan]

Alright, talked to my buddy this morning that suggested an Irish ale. He is cool with whatever as long as it isnt overly bitter and is RED. Here is what I mocked up as a hybrid american red/pale ale with hops I have on hand. Probably use a clean yeast for this. Any suggestions on recipe or yeast are welcomed. The main goal here is a red beer.

Batch Size: 6.5 gallons (ending kettle volume)
Efficiency: 77% (ending kettle)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.063
Final Gravity: 1.016
ABV (standard): 6.19%
IBU (tinseth): 37.9
SRM (morey): 16.1

FERMENTABLES:
11 lb - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (76.5%)
1 lb - American - Munich - Light 10L (7%)
1 lb - American - Caramel / Crystal 40L (7%)
0.5 lb - American - Victory (3.5%)
0.5 lb - American - Caramel / Crystal 120L (3.5%)
6 oz - Belgian - Special B (2.6%)

HOPS:
7 g - Columbus, Type: Pellet, AA: 15, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 11.01
0.5 oz - Columbus, Type: Pellet, AA: 15, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 11.07
0.5 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 11, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 8.11
0.5 oz - Columbus, Type: Pellet, AA: 15, Use: Boil for 5 min, IBU: 4.45
0.5 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 11, Use: Boil for 5 min, IBU: 3.26

 

[TheCADJockey]

Alright, talked to my buddy this morning that suggested an Irish ale.

That sounds awesome, unless Special B is something weird. Never used it.

Three new resume's out today. All jobs unrelated to my field but higher pay, shorter/zero commute and probably 100% less stress.

 

[finsfan]

That sounds awesome, unless Special B is something weird. Never used it.

nothing too weird, just "special". Here is a description of it, and why I am using so little of it.

Special B® is the darkest of the Belgian caramel malts, and oh how special it is. It has a unique aroma and flavor that is very complex. It imparts a heavy, dark caramel taste with more subtle notes of burnt sugar, raisin, and dark dried fruits such as cherries and plums.

probably 100% less stress.

Congrats man! I hope you find something you enjoy soon. More money is great but this may be worth it all by itself. Cheers Dan!

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

If work was always like this, there would be no such thing called work. I really totally absolutely hate you fins! Um..you guys need a janitor tho?

Last kegged remnant of bourbon IS.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Congrats man!

No congrats to be had yet. I've learned to not get my hopes up anymore. The lack of commute alone would be worth it. Seriously would do any job, just haven't found a position that garners respect yet. That's all I need. At this rate, my natural health business will end up more successful than drafting.

 

[banesong]

Looks like somebody has a new toy.

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Need a great toy like that!

Last time I did that I was carrying my favorite mug and had been filling it with rum/sodas. I thought I could jump down a whole half foot but was not coordinated enough to stick the landing. Skinned my elbow, both knees and shattered my favorite mug. Was a sad occurance. Worst thing is I had the brilliant idea of putting a paper towel on the skinned knees and elbow and passed out that way. Was not fun detaching them in the morning.



Yes, my suggestion is don't do it. It sucks. Just finished my kitchen. Hateful task. But I would suggest that if you do that you look in to the lash system for spacing. They make leveling the tiles much easier than those damn x's. Also, pick out larger tiles so that you dont have to lay as many. And thirdly, make sure that the room is square and that the surface you are laying the tile on is level. Will save you heaps of cussing and frustration.

The orange underlayment is kinda nice too. Follow the directions on sticking it down to the surface though and have something, cardboard, kneepads or something to protect your knees.

Ditto on the underlayment. Will pay for itself on the first leak. Also, love the 16x16" tiles.

That sounds awesome, unless Special B is something weird. Never used it.

Three new resume's out today. All jobs unrelated to my field but higher pay, shorter/zero commute and probably 100% less stress.

Good luck!

Where to begin. You guys science and tile way too much during the day, and way too busy in the evening to catch up. Consumables have been consumed, too. Thanks @val214