A friendly place for friends who drink

[BeerMeDuffMan]

Bought an Abyss last night after our conversations here. Also saw one of the Rye Whiskey barrel ones, guess that's new. $25 though? Pass. Then I got a japanese craft beer. Crack that tomorra. Hopefully it doesn't have tentacles.

I'm of the opinion that using too much of a whiskey or cognac in the blend would really kill the flavor experience. What makes The Abyss great, at least IMO, is the new oak heavy blend, lending a dryness to it, accentuating the cherry and licorice flavors. Cognac and whiskey may add another layer to it, but hopefully won't bury it the way a typical 100% BA varietal would do.

 

[WesleyS]

Nice of you to go to the movies and spread your germs with the entire theater. [emoji40]

Feel better, having some delicious homeroast.

Meh, there was like 10 people in the theatre, none of which were sitting near me. The closest couple to me were annoying and kept talking. So, if any nasties escaped my person and latched on to anyone, it was them and they would be deserving.

 

[BGBC]

On the carbonation elevation thing it's not an issue at packaging but it as time of enjoyment.

The volumes of CO2 in the beer is controlled via the generated partial pressure of CO2 in the bright-tank. Saves money by not nededing to force carb or bottle condition. The same holds true though regardless of carbonation method.

This tank/bottle/can is a closed system totally independent of altitude. It will function just as well in Death Valley as it would in orbit.

Now that the beer is packaged and has its desired CO2 disolved and in equilibrium in the beer and the bottle/can headspace it goes nowhere. Another closed system. Optimal carbonation no matter wher it's placed.

Time to open beer.
Open it at high elevation and it will foam a lot more as the lower atmospheric pressure allows more CO2 to boil off more rapidly. Take it to the extreme and open the beer in orbit. The CO2 will evaporate in an instant and the beer itself won't be far behind as it too boils off.

A more realistic scenario is cracking a beer when you are skiiing in the Rockies and see the foam come out like starsan from a keg. Same forces in effect.

Apologies in advance for the morning geek-out

But if you carbonated to a lower vol CO2, when the beer is opened at a high elevation, less CO2 would boil off, correct?

Would the final beer, once poured, be less carbonated than one that started out more carbonated but boiled off more CO2 when opened?

 

[Gavin C]

But if you carbonated to a lower vol CO2, when the beer is opened at a high elevation, less CO2 would boil off, correct?

Yes. The beer contains less disolved carbon dioxide so side by side with a beer that has higher volumes of CO2 it will foam less. This is true regardless of altitude of the side by side beers. It is a flatter beer to start with. Take it to the extreme and have zero CO2 volumes in the beer and there will be zero CO2 boiled off. No foam.

Would the final beer, once poured, be less carbonated than one that started out more carbonated but boiled off more CO2 when opened?

The rate of CO2 loss would be a percentage. Like a half life time of disolved CO2 if you will. So yes the less carbonated beer will remain less carbonated over time. As time goes by the difference will become negligably small but both beers are long past their enjoyable level of effervescence at this stage.

At extreme stratospheric altitudes the rate of CO2 escape to the atmosphere would be so extreme that both beers would be rendered close to flat as to make no difference. Your not going to be able to open and drink it fast enough as your survival suit will get in the way.

 

[BGBC]

Yes. The beer contains less disolved carbon dioxide so side by side with a beer that has higher volumes of CO2 it will foam less. This is true regardless of altitude of the side by side beers. It is a flatter beer to start with. Take it to the extreme and have zero CO2 volumes in the beer and there will be zero CO2 boiled off. No foam.



The rate of CO2 loss would be a percentage. Like a half life time of disolved CO2 if you will. So yes the less carbonated beer will remain less carbonated over time. As time goes by the difference will become negligably small but both beers are long past their enjoyable level of effervescence at this stage.

At extreme stratospheric altitudes the rate of CO2 escape to the atmosphere would be so extreme that both beers would be rendered close to flat as to make no difference. Your not going to be able to open and drink it fast enough as your survival suit will get in the way.

A simple 'I don't know' would have sufficed.

Not concerned with infinite altitude or the behavior of the beer after an infinite period of time. I get the theory, but trying to equate to practical application.

There is an 'ideal range' of vol CO2 at sea level (beer is carbonated, but not gushing). I'm curious if that range is narrower at 5000 ft, or if it's truly non-existent, since it's possible that the low vol CO2 required to prevent gushing would render the beer in the glass effectively uncarbonated (shortly after pouring, not after an extended period of time).

 

[TheCADJockey]

Well, since we're getting all sciency over beer at different elevations... I guess I should add in my opinion:

That being said. Check out this little gem we found while unpacking:

Definitely a few stormtroopers and at least a Darth Vader in there.

 

[iijakii]

Just don't take them to any piano recitals.

 

[SupervisingChildren]

Sick as a floccin dog. Worse than yesterday. Why I don't move out of this place when my wife and kid are sick is beyond me. Trying to muster up the strength to go to work anyway.
Since I was just going to sit around when I got home yesterday, I decided to finally go see Star Wars instead. I really liked it. The look and feel of it was a million times better than 1-3. Was disappointed by a couple things, and one major problem with casting, but that's probably just me being picky. Over all, though, I really enjoyed it. Can't wait for the next one.
Tl;dr

Feel better!

I'm fading fast... but I'm going to try and stick it out. I knew I shouldn't have been in such close proximity to my kid, but how do you tell a sick 3 year old that you can't hold them or let them snuggle up on the couch with you when they're feeling like crap.

The sacrifices we make...

Feel better as well!

Snuggled with my daughter yesterday and hoping my immune system keeps me good. Having a lazy day and enjoying a cup of coffee. Daughter is feeling a little better now.

 

[WesleyS]

I'm fading fast... but I'm going to try and stick it out. I knew I shouldn't have been in such close proximity to my kid, but how do you tell a sick 3 year old that you can't hold them or let them snuggle up on the couch with you when they're feeling like crap.



The sacrifices we make...

Feel better soon, man. Can't let anything get in the way of training for your big stick fighting play date.

 

[Gavin C]

My 3 yr old's sick too. Sneezed all over me this morning when she came into the bed with a slimy nose.

Won't be long till I succumb to whatever microbe was slathered all over me.

Think no ill of me, I feel crud's cold clammy hands advancing upon me. Sorry I broke the thread. I was pushed into it, others scienced first. I meant no harm.

 

[Psylocide]

Feel better soon, man. Can't let anything get in the way of training for your big stick fighting play date.

You too.

Something something, eat a dick.

 

[WesleyS]

Feel better!

Thanks. I feel terrible, but instead of laying around praying for death, I'm actually able to push myself to work. So, that's good. The only problem is, every time I don't get symptoms as severe as others from something going around, it tends to stick with me a few days or even a week longer than with anyone else.

 

[iijakii]

Are you guys saying that 3yos being sick is not the norm? I was under the impression those germbags were sick all of the time.

 

[SupervisingChildren]

Swmbo is an icu nurse, I spend most days in doctor's offices, then add 2 kids in school that have active social lives. It makes it hard to pinpoint whoever patient zero is when someone gets sick in my house.

 

[DisturbdChemist]

I'm not sick. Drinking water. Doing some work.

 

[ChefRex]

Y'all can keep your sickness to yourselfs, stay away from me![emoji40]

 

[Zekk]

The whole family got sick for Xmas. We even got the Grandparents in on the fun!

Drinking coffee, studying for a stupid state licensing exam tomorrow. If I pass, I have 1 more for a promotion. If I don't, nothing happens. Really lacking motivation. Especially since I'm looking for a new job.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

Homemade beef barley soup and water for lunch. Our Wegmans decided that moving a few items around the store each week was insufficient, so now they are re-arranging just about the entire store. So I go looking for some oyster crackers to have with my soup. I find the new cracker aisle, but no oyster crackers. I ask one of the two people shelving crackers if they no where they are and I get the response I always love when shopping "I don't work for the store so I'm not sure" I walked right out before the stabby feeling became too strong.

@Psylocide and @wesleys - get better soon. Perhaps you need more alcohol to kill the bugs?

 

[BGBC]

I ask one of the two people shelving crackers if they no where they are and I get the response I always love when shopping "I don't work for the store so I'm not sure"

so they just do it for fun?

 

[BrewinHooligan]

On the coffee. Thank you all for the input, it's much appreciated. I did do a search and found a Clearwater Brewing in the UK but since I don't plan to distribute outside of the state let alone the country it's a non issue. We will be asking investors for well over a million for startup costs and expenses for the first year or so. It's a lofty goal, but craft beer sells like crazy out here and there is still a bunch of room for growth in the local market.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

so they just do it for fun?

They are contractors who move a bunch of food from one spot to another, I guess. Just do what they are told and keep their heads down. Floccers

 

[drainbamage]

They are contractors who move a bunch of food from one spot to another, I guess. Just do what they are told and keep their heads down. Floccers

They've done the same thing with our local Kroger a couple of times, but they just closed early and did most of the moving after hours. I think you're right that it's just a contractor. Although when you go in and even the employees don't know the new locations...

 

[BeerMeDuffMan]

For you history buffs who also enjoy beer

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[BeerMeDuffMan]

Also picked up breakfast for the next two weeks. Bring in the snow. I'm ready

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[blizzard]

Also picked up breakfast for the next two weeks. Bring in the snow. I'm ready

Pre-ground? The coffee nerds are disappointed.

 

[mcbaumannerb]

Pre-ground? The coffee nerds are disappointed.

Not to mention pre-roasted. Rather heathenistic if you ask me.

 

[Psylocide]

Welp. Got an oil change done over my lunch while I'm sick as hell... I'm a glutton for punishment, apparently.

 

[ChefRex]

Also picked up breakfast for the next two weeks. Bring in the snow. I'm ready

Here I though I knew you🙄

 

[BGBC]

Also picked up breakfast for the next two weeks. Bring in the snow. I'm ready

I'm for it, but I can't convince my wife to go whole bean, so I got your back Duffman.

 

[iijakii]

Coarse grind at home then French Press or bust.