3 FLoyds Zombie Dust attempt. Help/info requested

[FeelingSurly]

I hope it lasts that long! I brewed a 5.5 gallon batch but didn't compensate enough water in the boil for the whole leaf citra soaking some of it up...so I ended with a little over 4 gallons (after secondary and kegging). I highly intend on doing 10 gallons next time around.

 

[cwdrake]

Just wondering how do you do first wort hopping with an extract brew?

 

[MoeFoties]

Has anyone successfully come up with a lower ABV version of this amazing recipe? I'd love to get this down around 5%ABV or so...is it as simple as cutting out some of the 2-row and maye scaling back the boil hops just a bit?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Just wondering how do you do first wort hopping with an extract brew?

If steeping the grains for 30 min or so, I would just steep the FWH in another bag during that time, the using them during the boil also. Paint strainer bags are cheap at home depot, and can be had in 1g or 5g sizes.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Has anyone successfully come up with a lower ABV version of this amazing recipe? I'd love to get this down around 5%ABV or so...is it as simple as cutting out some of the 2-row and maye scaling back the boil hops just a bit?

I haven't tried to, but if you have beersmith you can have it scale it down with the scale function. If you only drop 2row and bittering hops it may end a bit maltier and sweeter. It would probably still end up good. If I was in the states and had access to beer smith I would help more. If no one else does by Friday I can run some #s for you.

 

[eknee]

At Sunday's club meeting there were 5 homebrew versions of zombie dust as well as the real thing on tap. We compared them all and several club members told me that this recipe was the best beer. This is my 2nd batch of this recipe and I absolutely love it.

 

[mcnewcp]

What is the final AG recipe that has come out of this thread? I really want to make this beer, but I'd love it if someone would save me the trouble of searching through 43 pages.

 

[ocluke]

What is the final AG recipe that has come out of this thread? I really want to make this beer, but I'd love it if someone would save me the trouble of searching through 43 pages.

I'm pretty sure various people have different takes on it since this recipe doesn't seem to originate from 3Floyds. The OP's recipe seems to be well-received and is updated on post 1 as he makes changes.

 

[mux]

This is a great beer! I have had a lot of zombie dust and this pretty close.

 

[MoeFoties]

I haven't tried to, but if you have beersmith you can have it scale it down with the scale function. If you only drop 2row and bittering hops it may end a bit maltier and sweeter. It would probably still end up good. If I was in the states and had access to beer smith I would help more. If no one else does by Friday I can run some #s for you.

Thanks skeezerpleezer...I appreciate it!

 

[mcnewcp]

I'm pretty sure various people have different takes on it since this recipe doesn't seem to originate from 3Floyds. The OP's recipe seems to be well-received and is updated on post 1 as he makes changes.

Ah, now I see... carry on.

 

[bellsbrat]

What is everyone's FG on this think I mashed a little to hot I could only get down to 1.018

 

[whitehause]

I'll be dry hopping tomorrow:rockin:, so I'll post my fg. I used Bell's yeast, so it won't be an exact comparison. I also mashed a bit high( 156,157) but I wanted a little more maltiness to cut the heavy hops.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Once again, My lack of preparation leaves me with an empty keg and no more ZD ready to be tapped. The next batch needs to be 10g.

 

[eanmcnulty]

I am dry-hopping mine today. I am so excited to taste it. I will bottle next week, then a short wait to carbonation...

 

[jammin]

Brewing this tomorrow or the next day -

I have S04 and Wyeast 1968.

Any last thoughts? I would need to get a starter spinning soon if I go with 1968.


Cheers

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Both will make great beers. I may prefer the 1968, if you have time to get the starter going. I would also mash a bit lower (152 or so) because the 1968 doesn't attenuate as well.

 

[eanmcnulty]

I tasted mine today when dry-hopping. Flat, warm, and unhopped, it may be the best thing I have brewed.

 

[PLAYERSONLY]

I tasted mine today when dry-hopping. Flat, warm, and unhopped, it may be the best thing I have brewed.

I have one batch, my first attempt at this recipe, to bottle tonight. Another that I racked and dry hopped to secondary yesterday and it smelled and tasted great.
I've got 6 brews under my belt and two of them are "Zombie" so I sure hope these finish out as good as they've tasted so far.

 

[Landshark67]

I'm brewing my first ZD IPA today. Was able to land some Citra from Midwest homebrew supplies in case others are looking for them.

Mashed at 153F....actually 153.3F.

Plan is to use WLP051 since I have that ready and it's been my go-to IPA yeast for a while.

The FWH make the entire house smell like citrusy goodness.

 

[jammin]

Hit 1.067
Mashed at 154

Had to sub the Melanoidan for another .5lb of Munich.

5 gallons hangn in the ferm chamber waiting for the S-04 to take off.

 

[Jamison]

This is my hydrometer sample. I'll be dry hopping tomorrow. I used pellet hops this go around and WLP002. Can't believe how clear it is now. I can already tell this is going to be much better than my 1st attempt (which was pretty awesome)!

 

[mux]

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This is my hydrometer sample. I'll be dry hopping tomorrow. I used pellet hops this go around and WLP002. Can't believe how clear it is now. I can already tell this is going to be much better than my 1st attempt (which was pretty awesome)!

That is very clear! Great job. Did you filter that?

 

[Jamison]

Nope. Just grabbed it with a wine thief.

 

[brobeman]

On the hop schedule, what is the first addition for 15 minutes? Does this go in before reaching a boil?

Brewing an all grain batch this weekend, if I can get Citra from Northern Brewer this week.

Thanks.

Brobe

 

[twenty5]

Thanks for the recipe, I have been buying up ingredients and getting ready for this one over the last couple of weeks.

I plan on doing the extract and when I put the numbers into beer smith, the numbers I came up with were a lot lower than the stated OG. I got 1.052 and my IBUs showed a lot higher than the original post states. Am I doing something wrong or does the recipe need to be altered? I am doing a full boil and using whole leaf citra. Any help would be appreciated, I would like to brew this in the next week or so.

 

[smokinj]

What is your grain/extract bill? Did you set the first wort hop addition to 20 minutes instead of 60?

 

[jammin]

What ferm temps are people getting good results at with S-04?

I have active fermentation taking off with ambient temp @ 63 in my chest freezer. Safale says the yeast will work as low as 59*; should I turn the temp down a bit?

 

[twenty5]

I should also mention I am new to BeerSmith... lol I have the hops worked out but with:
6lbs Extra Light DME
1lb Munich Malt
8oz Carafoam
8oz Caramel/Crystal
8oz Melanoiden
I am still getting 1.055 (it was 1.052 with 5.25gal batch). BeerSmith says to hit 1.066 I need to up to:
7lb 3.2oz
1lb 3.2oz
9.6oz
9.6oz
9.6oz
Respectively.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

Jamison- Good Looking beer there.

Brobeman- The 15 minute addition goes in at 15 minutes left in the boil. The First Wort Hops (FWH) goes into the first runnings from the mash, then stays in throughout the whole boil. I edited the OP so the FWH is listed first.

Jammin-I go around 62-63 in my chest freezer (thermocouple submerged in a large bottle of water)

Twenty5- the difference is probably because the "extract" on Beersmith does not account for any sugar added from the steeping (which from whqt i understand is like a mini-mash for these specialty grains). If you switch it to Partial Mash, it will go up. The caramel malts do not need to be mashed, and I have read that Munich doesn't either. I am not sure about the Melanoiden. Perhaps some of the people that brewed the extract version will chime in on what their OG was.