First batch was a no boil extract(coopers lager), everyone but me liked it. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely drinkable, but that's it. I bought a partial extract for my second brew(ahs bav hefe), kinda nervous about the steep and boil, but got it anyways. Brewed it tonight, talk about fun. It had it's highs, lows, and straight intense moments. 3 gal boil with a 20 qt aluminum tamale steamer pot. Can't wait to do it again. Oh, and I hit the target OG right on the money,