GHawk
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I've really been spending time putting together and experimenting with recipes and learning my preferences of hop combinations. This has led me into many hours of researching and reading material and reading other's opinions, as well.
I'm finding that most of the discussions and material are going into the IPA direction. Try searching American Pale Ale hop combinations or ratios. Not happenin'.
What my concern is and reason for starting this topic is:
What I find SO often, for example, is a recipe using a bittering hop and 3 ounces say at 15 minutes of a combination of hops, then another 3 ounces at flameout, and again another 4 ounces for dry hopping.
One in particular was given to me by the recipe creator in regards to Amarillo/ Mosaic:
"The additions were progressive, as in the 15 minute was 1 ounce of each, the 5 was 1.25, the flameout was 1.75, and then 2 ounces of each in dry hop."
THAT WOULD BE 12 (freakin') ounces of HOPS!!! REALLY!? Who dry hops with 4oz of hops?!
Come on. Is the practice of adding $30 of hops into 5 gallons of wort where I'm missing what's going on here? I've been chasing the Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone war for a couple of years now and have yet to get close enough with any recipes given, some purported from SN head brewers themselves, and some here on Homebrew Talk. There HAS to be a lot more hopping going on other than 1 ounce here and there. (oh... my water is Pale Ale proned)
I'm finding in this year's batches I like a bittering hop for IBU's to balance the grain bill then a 15-20 and flameout... or, as in my Whirlpool Pale Ale, hop additions at several different cooling temps to retain desired volatile oils. Am I missing out not adding 1 POUND of hops after my 30 minute boil? Where would the wort flavor go? Do I balance this hop tea with 30# of base grain? REALLY?!
You may notice a little hint of disdain here. I'm 20 years old school bitter-flavor-aroma hopping BEFORE the IPA, IIPA, IIIIIPA and let's see how much oil we can add to this beer to blow out the back of your head era. Brother-in-Law shared a commercial IPA with me this Easter and it was simply nasty. It was a hop tea with no malt flavor what so ever.
How cute.
shhhhhew
Thanks for reading. I feel better now. (dismantling soap box for fire wood)
What say you?
I'm finding that most of the discussions and material are going into the IPA direction. Try searching American Pale Ale hop combinations or ratios. Not happenin'.
What my concern is and reason for starting this topic is:
What I find SO often, for example, is a recipe using a bittering hop and 3 ounces say at 15 minutes of a combination of hops, then another 3 ounces at flameout, and again another 4 ounces for dry hopping.
One in particular was given to me by the recipe creator in regards to Amarillo/ Mosaic:
"The additions were progressive, as in the 15 minute was 1 ounce of each, the 5 was 1.25, the flameout was 1.75, and then 2 ounces of each in dry hop."
THAT WOULD BE 12 (freakin') ounces of HOPS!!! REALLY!? Who dry hops with 4oz of hops?!
Come on. Is the practice of adding $30 of hops into 5 gallons of wort where I'm missing what's going on here? I've been chasing the Sierra Nevada Pale Ale clone war for a couple of years now and have yet to get close enough with any recipes given, some purported from SN head brewers themselves, and some here on Homebrew Talk. There HAS to be a lot more hopping going on other than 1 ounce here and there. (oh... my water is Pale Ale proned)
I'm finding in this year's batches I like a bittering hop for IBU's to balance the grain bill then a 15-20 and flameout... or, as in my Whirlpool Pale Ale, hop additions at several different cooling temps to retain desired volatile oils. Am I missing out not adding 1 POUND of hops after my 30 minute boil? Where would the wort flavor go? Do I balance this hop tea with 30# of base grain? REALLY?!
You may notice a little hint of disdain here. I'm 20 years old school bitter-flavor-aroma hopping BEFORE the IPA, IIPA, IIIIIPA and let's see how much oil we can add to this beer to blow out the back of your head era. Brother-in-Law shared a commercial IPA with me this Easter and it was simply nasty. It was a hop tea with no malt flavor what so ever.
How cute.
shhhhhew
Thanks for reading. I feel better now. (dismantling soap box for fire wood)
What say you?