08-08-08 Russian Imperial Stout Exchange

[Chriso]

BrewBrain and Yuri, already on the list, thanx for confirming!
ScubaSteve, added!
:fro:

If you upgrade your membership to join in on the swap, please PM me so that I see it and can add you! Thanks!

 

[BierMuncher]

Oh yeah...

And any deadbeats from prior (or current) swaps need not apply.

We ought to coordinate with Bird about any recent beerswap welchers and scrub the list.

 

[Chriso]

Oh yeah...

And any deadbeats from prior (or current) swaps need not apply.

We ought to coordinate with Bird about any recent beerswap welchers and scrub the list.

Good call, thanks BM!

 

[Brewpastor]

Will the swap have any regionality to it? That could help with postage!

 

[Chriso]

Will the swap have any regionality to it? That could help with postage!

That's a good idea... suggestions? Make a "West", "Central", and "East" zone? Go further than that?

 

[BierMuncher]

That's a good idea... suggestions? Make a "West", "Central", and "East" zone? Go further than that?

It only cost me $12 to ship 4 – 12 Ouncers to CA from the Midwest.

I think the excessive cost comes from shipping from the four corners ...i.e Northeast to the Southwest…

Maybe keeping it as simple as splitting the country down the middle will insure nobody spends over $15 in shipping.

I just hate to see it get too complex for the organizer (Chriso)

 

[Brewpastor]

KISS should rule the day and who ever is organizing is doing it right!

 

[Chriso]

Maybe what could work is... I randomize just like we were planning to do.... then, before we make the list "final", I just visually check over it to make sure that nobody is shipping from Maine to south Cali, or from Washington State to Florida.... just a quick eyeball check for anything that seems excessively far...

Sound OK? It passes my KISS test

 

[ScubaSteve]

BrewBrain and Yuri, already on the list, thanx for confirming!
ScubaSteve, added!
:fro:

If you upgrade your membership to join in on the swap, please PM me so that I see it and can add you! Thanks!

YEEEEEEEHAAAAWWWW!

 

[olllllo]

I just included information to support a trade for the rest of the membership.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=441979&postcount=5

 

[BrewBrain]

Maybe what could work is... I randomize just like we were planning to do.... then, before we make the list "final", I just visually check over it to make sure that nobody is shipping from Maine to south Cali, or from Washington State to Florida.... just a quick eyeball check for anything that seems excessively far...

Sound OK? It passes my KISS test

I just shipped three packages from California - two to Texas and one to Maryland. They were all basically the same price ~ $12 or so.

 

[Chriso]

The recipe is now online.

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/produ...11223&osCsid=8cf5bf5a64ac240f4a4b7918273baa8b

if that link doesn't work you can do a search for "homebrewtalk" or it
can be found in "our versions of commercial beer" under "R"

Be aware, all of our recipes the default options uses extract and
White Labs yeast, so you will need to change this when ordering.

Have fun,
-Nick

Here ya go! Have fun!

 

[Brewpastor]

BRAVO, a star is born. Very cool indeed. Great job Chriso.

 

[Ó Flannagáin]

Here ya go! Have fun!

Dude, that's awesome! Am I wrong in my assumption here or is AHB carrying the 888 kit?

Brewpastor, your famous!!

 

[Chriso]

Dude, that's awesome! Am I wrong in my assumption here or is AHB carrying the 888 kit?

Brewpastor, your famous!!

Ding ding ding!!!!! :fro:

I'm totally psyched... I'm ordering mine on payday. WOOT!

 

[shunoshi]

Hot damn! I'm picking mine up as soon as I have the available funds. Way to go chriso and AHB! This is gonna rock!

 

[Drunkensatyr]

Just bought the membership (should have done it months ago...procrastination) so I will throw my name in the hat as well!

 

[Chriso]

Just bought the membership (should have done it months ago...procrastination) so I will throw my name in the hat as well!

Woot! I go makey edit right now.

 

[BierMuncher]

Why is it when I plug the AG recipe into BeerSMith I get IBU's of only 68 VS 88?

 

[Chriso]

Update: I have changed the quantities of beer to be sent out for the Supporting Member swap. I have already updated the main post to reflect this. This is based off of information from prior swaps that have been conducted, and feedback to those swaps.

Prior to today, the agreement was to send (2x 22oz = 44oz total) or (3x 12 oz = 36oz total).

I am changing this to (2x 22oz = 44oz total) or (4x 12oz = 48oz total).

The reason that I am changing this is because the previous numbers were skewed too heavily in favor of those who send 12 oz bottles. That is to say, many people would be getting 8 "extra" ounces of beer, or would be getting "shorted" 8 ounces of beer. Choosing 4x12 selects a total ounce amount closer to the 22oz amount.

In other words, as the_bird usually puts it, "You will be sending out a minimum of 44 fluid ounces to three other individuals, and receiving back the same. To each person, you may send either a pair of 22ounce bombers, or four 12-ounce bottles."

I hope everyone is OK with this minor alteration. As I mentioned, I am making this change in order to operate as similarly to other HBT swaps as possible. Please PM me if you have any questions.

 

[flowerysong]

I'm in. Racked to secondary today, and even though I had a few mishaps on brew day it seems to have turned out.

 

[BierMuncher]

...I hope everyone is OK with this minor alteration. As I mentioned, I am making this change in order to operate as similarly to other HBT swaps as possible. Please PM me if you have any questions.

Sounds good.

My keg (secondary) is resting comfortably in the dark corner of my 45 degree garage. It tasted remarkably better than several weeks ago, but certainly needs a few months under its belt.

 

[Chriso]

Gotcha added, Flowerysong.

1/2 of mine is already bottled, I think I'm gonna do the other 1/2 tonight while watching Project Runway.

I'm using 12oz bottles since I have more of them around (tie up for aging), so each of my recipients will get 2x 12oz RIS and 2x 12 oz Raspberry RIS. I tried a sample of the Razz the other day and it's DEFINITELY potent. Don't know how much of an ABV boost the raspberry added, but it's tangy... should be good aged!

 

[PseudoChef]

I just read this again since it was bumped per se, but I gotta ask why we're sending 4 bottles of the same beer? The reason we send 48 oz during the beerswaps is because people send many different beers. This is going to be the same beer.

Not to be a ******, but what if you get a really suck-fest laden RIS? Then you're sitting on 3 that you don't want to drink.

I say we knock it down, which will also help in the shipping costs.

I don't think this will go over well, but I'm just throwing it out there.

 

[CBBaron]

I just read this again since it was bumped per se, but I gotta ask why we're sending 4 bottles of the same beer? The reason we send 48 oz during the beerswaps is because people send many different beers. This is going to be the same beer.

Not to be a ******, but what if you get a really suck-fest laden RIS? Then you're sitting on 3 that you don't want to drink.

I say we knock it down, which will also help in the shipping costs.

I don't think this will go over well, but I'm just throwing it out there.

Good point but I for one would like to sample this beer on at least 2 different occasions. And I intend to add a sample of my previous RIS and perhaps something else to my package to give the recipients something to drink before 08-08-08, and hopefully get some feed back also.

Craig

 

[Chriso]

Don't apologize for raising the question, PseudoChef, that's exactly why I worded that post as I did. I wanted to make sure that people knew that I was making that change for a fairly one-sided reason - consistency - and that we should discuss it further. So, in short, thanks for chiming in!

I think you have a very valid concern there. I am hesitant to drop it to 3x 12oz bottles, only because then there's a big incentive to ship 36 oz instead of 44 oz (2 bombers). I like where CBB is going. Maybe include at least 3 bottles of RIS and then a "bonus" bottle of the sender's choice? Other ideas?

I recognize your concern on the shipping cost, and share that concern, but am trying to keep this from being too biased towards either the bombers or the 12oz's. Maybe when I get home tonight I will do a couple trial runs with packing 12's and 22's in boxes and getting weights.

Another alternative would be to drop all the way down to 1x 22oz or 2x 12oz.... I am reluctant to drop that far, for a couple reasons. As CBB said, I want to do a little tasting over time. It's also nice to be able to verify that you didn't just get "a bad bottle". Secondly, it introduces single point of failure if someone chooses to ship a 22. If that one bottle breaks, the sender has to completely repackage and reship, whereas if there are 2 bottles, there's still a chance the other made it.

I will keep brainstorming.

 

[flowerysong]

Not to be a ******, but what if you get a really suck-fest laden RIS?

Pour the rest out. It's not like the brewer's holding a gun to your head and saying "Drink!".

What if (purely hypothetically) all of the brewer's beers are suck-fests? How is having multiple kinds of horrible beer better than having just one? At least if all of the bottles are the same beer, you can confidently pour out the ones you haven't tasted.

That being said, I'd be okay with the requirements being "A minimum of 44oz of beer, two bottles of which must be the 888 RIS." Those sending 12oz bottles could then choose to swap out one or two for a different beer at their discretion, and the receivers would still be guaranteed the option to save at least one bottle of the RIS for tasting at a later date.

 

[Chriso]

That being said, I'd be okay with the requirements being "A minimum of 44oz of beer, two bottles of which must be the 888 RIS." Those sending 12oz bottles could then choose to swap out one or two for a different beer at their discretion, and the receivers would still be guaranteed the option to save at least one bottle of the RIS for tasting at a later date.

I like that. You worded that very concisely. If you're doing 22's, you still satisfy the "two bottles of which must be" clause. If you're doing 12's, you can put 2 RISes in, and then another IS from your personal collection, a haus, a sour, whatever. In my case, 2 RIS and 2 Rasp RIS. Or, maybe I decide the Rasp RIS isn't that good, then I just include 1 of them, and 1 different beer. Maybe an experimental beer that I was happy with the results. Or maybe a different "x-factor" beer for each of my 3 recipients. That could be fun.

Votes?

 

[PseudoChef]

I like that. You worded that very concisely. If you're doing 22's, you still satisfy the "two bottles of which must be" clause. If you're doing 12's, you can put 2 RISes in, and then another IS from your personal collection, a haus, a sour, whatever. In my case, 2 RIS and 2 Rasp RIS. Or, maybe I decide the Rasp RIS isn't that good, then I just include 1 of them, and 1 different beer. Maybe an experimental beer that I was happy with the results. Or maybe a different "x-factor" beer for each of my 3 recipients. That could be fun.

Votes?

That pleases me greatly. My IIPA will be at the peak then, too. I can totally live with that.

Sweet.

 

[Chriso]

The more I think about it, the happier I am with this. Because now, instead of JUST receiving RISes in exchange for RISes, there's a personalization factor, a surprise factor involved.

I can't wait. You guys have no clue how freaking excited I am. I already have score sheets printed. I'm drooling. This is awesome.

Update: I've tentatively updated the text based on this discussion. See below, also updated in main post.

Beer and Shipping Info
I propose that each swapper send (2-22oz 'bombers') or (4-12oz bottles), at least two bottles of which should be your 08-08-08 RIS. If you choose 22's, you've satisfied the requirement. If you use 12's, then you have two more bottles to include, which can be any homebrew of your discretion, including more RIS. (Updated 1/23 for clarity/ambiguity)