☕ Coffee ☕: Ingredients, Roasting, Grinding, Brewing, and Tasting

[passedpawn]

What has 2 thumbs and is gonna be roasting some go-faster this weekend? This guy!

I got the columbian sampler, and a couple of other beans from sweet marias.

I think I'm going to try to speed my roast up just a bit. Currently, I do a 20 min roast with my highly calibrated and repeatable turbo oven jalopy set to 400F. I'm going to turn that sucker all the way up to 11 (which I think is close to 450, though the text there is worn off) and see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, you'll know I went out doing what I love.

 

[passedpawn]

I got this card from sweet marias. IIRC, I think I've gotten similar ones before. Nice touch, Tom.

Expand the photo so you can read the text. Pretty nifty. I've a bucket list a mile long; I think I'll add visiting a coffee plantation to it.

 

[applescrap]

What has 2 thumbs and is gonna be roasting some go-faster this weekend? This guy!

I got the columbian sampler, and a couple of other beans from sweet marias.

I think I'm going to try to speed my roast up just a bit. Currently, I do a 20 min roast with my highly calibrated and repeatable turbo oven jalopy set to 400F. I'm going to turn that sucker all the way up to 11 (which I think is close to 450, though the text there is worn off) and see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, you'll know I went out doing what I love.

I hope it goes better than that! Why do you want to speed up?

 

[passedpawn]

I hope it goes better than that! Why do you want to speed up?

Just a test. Can't end that badly, I do monitor it. I'm just wondering what the difference would be.

 

[applescrap]

What is the word on homeroastcoffee

 

[jammin]

What has 2 thumbs and is gonna be roasting some go-faster this weekend? This guy!

I got the columbian sampler, and a couple of other beans from sweet marias.

I think I'm going to try to speed my roast up just a bit. Currently, I do a 20 min roast with my highly calibrated and repeatable turbo oven jalopy set to 400F. I'm going to turn that sucker all the way up to 11 (which I think is close to 450, though the text there is worn off) and see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, you'll know I went out doing what I love.

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2 things....

1 - awesome choice diving into some good Columbian coffee. Temper your expectations as it can be tough to find exceptional lots. When you find them though..... dear lord


2 - glad to hear you're speeding up your roast. 20min is just WAY too long. I would love to hear what you think of a roast closer to 11-12min overall.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Today was one of those days where the coffee disappeared from the mug WAAAAY too soon.

The Zimbabwe from Burmans is kick. ass. Delicious. And unfortunately they are out of it

 

[applescrap]

So 7 minutes, and slightly under roasted from what I wanted. It's also got a lot of variance. The problem is I didn't want to stand there for 13 minutes. Tastes like a true medium. Not too dark not too light, not to acidic not to burnt.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Ordered some Papa New Guinea. Never have tried roasting that before, so that should be a fun experiment.

Also ordered Burundi and Tanzania - some of my more favorite coffees of late.

 

[jammin]

Ordered some Papa New Guinea. Never have tried roasting that before, so that should be a fun experiment.

Also ordered Burundi and Tanzania - some of my more favorite coffees of late.

LOVE a good PNG. It can have some fruity characteristics with a deep, deep sweetness. Big bodied cup with bassy/earthy flavors usually

 

[TrickyDick]

Saw this on Facebook.
http://www.auromabrewing.com/
Looks pretty gimmicky. be interesting to use the brewing app and make refracto measurements to see if it does what it claims. Wonder what kind of grinding apparatus is going to let them dial in any parameters consistently. It's harder than you can imagine to do it manually.

Also.
One of the guys I work with, newish hire, is a huge coffee snob. Not a roaster, but collects antique hand grinders, pre WWII German zassenhaus grinder he claims are the best. He refurbishes them himself. Says the best ones are hard to find - German antique stores.
Anybody else have experience with these? Curious how much of a difference it really makes vs my electric Baratza. By the way, the steel burrs I broken in now, about a year later. Getting much more uniform grinds and little to no dust.

TD

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Saw this on Facebook.
http://www.auromabrewing.com/


TD

Looks similar to the Behmor Brewer, but with more limited cup size and twice the price!

 

[TrickyDick]

Didn't know behmor had one with a grinder. This looks like a one cup brewer. How much did they want for this?
TD

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Oh yeah you are right, the Behmor doesn't have a grinder. It has the controls via your cell phone though to set water temp and pre-soak stuff. I don't have one, but have known of people who have them and love it.

The Auroma brewer is priced at $399 (normally $499 they said). I would rather drop $200 on a good grinder and another $200 on a brewer, if I'm spending $400 on this sort of rig. But that's just me I guess.

 

[jammin]

Saw this on Facebook.
http://www.auromabrewing.com/
Looks pretty gimmicky. be interesting to use the brewing app and make refracto measurements to see if it does what it claims. Wonder what kind of grinding apparatus is going to let them dial in any parameters consistently. It's harder than you can imagine to do it manually.

Also.
One of the guys I work with, newish hire, is a huge coffee snob. Not a roaster, but collects antique hand grinders, pre WWII German zassenhaus grinder he claims are the best. He refurbishes them himself. Says the best ones are hard to find - German antique stores.
Anybody else have experience with these? Curious how much of a difference it really makes vs my electric Baratza. By the way, the steel burrs I broken in now, about a year later. Getting much more uniform grinds and little to no dust.

TD

Your baratza will crap all over those dinosaurs

 

[passedpawn]

In case anyone is thinking about building a SC/TO, Home depot has turbo ovens on sale right now (special buy) for $24.95. Haha, I think I bought mine used for $30.

 

[TrickyDick]

Oh yeah you are right, the Behmor doesn't have a grinder. It has the controls via your cell phone though to set water temp and pre-soak stuff. I don't have one, but have known of people who have them and love it.

The Auroma brewer is priced at $399 (normally $499 they said). I would rather drop $200 on a good grinder and another $200 on a brewer, if I'm spending $400 on this sort of rig. But that's just me I guess.

I bought the non-wifi Behmor brewer not too long ago. It has all the same controls as the wiFi version just through the controls on the brewer.
I never use the pre-grind and programmed brewing because I'm a snob. I will occasionally grind beans and dump them in and set for 15 minutes to brew so it'll be finished by the time I've showered and dressed for the day so shave a few minutes off my mornings, but otherwise that's about it.

It gives a consistent brew which is important to me - more so than my Technivorm did. I never did Technivorm trials after manually dumping the reservoir residual though, but that is rather tedious practice to me.

I think this mini brewer I saw might appeal to those hooked on K-cup brewing machines. Pricey at $400.

TD

 

[ba-brewer]

In case anyone is thinking about building a SC/TO, Home depot has turbo ovens on sale right now (special buy) for $24.95. Haha, I think I bought mine used for $30.

A few ago they had Behmor roasters for 295.

When I built my SC/TO roaster I thoughts the preferred ovens where the old style ovens as you could easily defeat the thermostat if you wanted.

Did you use a new style turbo oven like the one at home depot or did you use an old style galloping gourmet style?

 

[passedpawn]

A few ago they had Behmor roasters for 295.

When I built my SC/TO roaster I thoughts the preferred ovens where the old style ovens as you could easily defeat the thermostat if you wanted.

Did you use a new style turbo oven like the one at home depot or did you use an old style galloping gourmet style?

Not sure what new vs old is. I'm pretty sure if I wanted to defeat the thermostat, I could do it. I'm pretty good with electronics. But mine is working pretty good now, and I have more room on the thermostat dial, so I probably won't fudge with it.

I'll see if I can find a picture and you can tell me which one I have.

[edit] here it is

 

[ba-brewer]

Well your turbo oven is not the old galloping gourmet style, and does look pretty much like the one on sale at home depot, so I would say yours is a new style.

If your is working just fine then maybe I am remembering wrong or misinterpreted old and new style ovens when I built mine.

 

[applescrap]

In case anyone is thinking about building a SC/TO, Home depot has turbo ovens on sale right now (special buy) for $24.95. Haha, I think I bought mine used for $30.

I want one how does it work. Is it just kind of rigged up on top of a pot. And the airflow moves the beans

 

[ba-brewer]

The Stir Crazy(SC) does the moving, the Turbo Oven (TO) does the heating. There is air circulating inside by the TO but not enough to move the beans.

 

[applescrap]

So is this the stir crazy? Then you set it up with a turbo oven. Looks like it could work on its own?

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[passedpawn]

So is this the stir crazy? Then you set it up with a turbo oven. Looks like it could work on its own?

Yep.

And nope, won't work on its own. Doesn't get hot enough. I dug in and removed the thermostat so it ran full tilt and (besides becoming a fire hazard) it got too hot and with the minimal stirring action the beans just burned on one side.

 

[shelly_belly]

In case anyone is thinking about building a SC/TO, Home depot has turbo ovens on sale right now (special buy) for $24.95. Haha, I think I bought mine used for $30.

Thanks! I've been looking for one at the thrift stores but haven't found any. I did find a stir crazy for $5.

 

[jammin]

Yep.

And nope, won't work on its own. Doesn't get hot enough. I dug in and removed the thermostat so it ran full tilt and (besides becoming a fire hazard) it got too hot and with the minimal stirring action the beans just burned on one side.

Told ya so

 

[TrickyDick]

Cleaning burrs

 

[TrickyDick]

Why the gap??

 

[TrickyDick]

This is the upper burr from my Baratza, which originally came with ceramic burrs - interestingly when I swapped to steel, I found a chip in one of the ceramic original burrs....

At any rate, the steel upper burr has this lip on it which makes a groove into which coffee will accumulate... irritating!

When I asked baratza, they said this was normal to have the gap.

I am thinking about getting or fabricating an insert to alleviate the issue. Not sure what to make it from. Silicone washer trimmed to size would probably be the easiest. Anybody else encounter this?

TD

 

[passedpawn]

Roasted two 1# batches of columbian origins on my ghetto roaster. I turned the dial all the way up, from 400F to probably 500F (silkscreen completely worn off in that area). It's not obvious if the turbo oven has any real thermostat or if it's just cycling power to the element to simulate.

My roasting time went from 20m down to 14m. 1st crack between ~9 minutes. That's a medium City+ roast. Cupping will happen next week. Roast appears to just as uniform as before, even better maybe. I'll get a picture up here later today.