West Coast "C's" IPA hop advice??

[firefly765]

Hey, I'm looking to do a West Coast C's type ipa. I have on hand :
Cascade 3.8 oz
Centennial 2 oz
Chinook 1 oz
Cluster
Citra 2 oz
.......also 2 oz amarillo (not a c but willing to fudge it if necessary)

Here is what i am toying with so far:

Boil Size: 11.85 gal
Post Boil Volume: 11.23 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 10.60 gal
Bottling Volume: 10.60 gal
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 5.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 65.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.4 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.12 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
20 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 87.0 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal 15L (15.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.7 %
1 lbs Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.3 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 24.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 6 13.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 4.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 12.4 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 9 -
0.80 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 10 2.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 11 4.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 12 4.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 23 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 28.75 qt of water at 164.9 F 150.0 F 75 min

 

[sptaylor70]

That looks good. I would use a darker crystal than CaraPils, to get some flavor along with my dextrins (maybe C40L), or, since your grain bill is 13% crystal, maybe swap out the CaraPils for Victory or Vienna malt to give another layer of underlying malt flavor.

What yeast(s) are you thinking about?

 

[Nuggethead]

I don't like much crystal in my IPA's. If it were me, I would drop the CaraPils and cut the Crystal by 50%.
5.2 is a waist of $ and does nothing for your beer, IMO.
All else looks great.

 

[firefly765]

That looks good. I would use a darker crystal than CaraPils, to get some flavor along with my dextrins (maybe C40L), or, since your grain bill is 13% crystal, maybe swap out the CaraPils for Victory or Vienna malt to give another layer of underlying malt flavor.

What yeast(s) are you thinking about?

1056(washed starter)

 

[firefly765]

I don't like much crystal in my IPA's. If it were me, I would drop the CaraPils and cut the Crystal by 50%.
5.2 is a waist of $ and does nothing for your beer, IMO.
All else looks great.

I always use the 5.2 because I don't know the ph of my water and have never gotten a report. I think of it as cheap insurance in case my water ph is messed up I don't think it's that expensive, I bought a tub of it and it's lasted about 2 years now.

 

[firefly765]

Ok, so I'm still tweaking this....added 1 oz Cluster @ 10 min & moved more cascade to dryhopping and added some C40. Any suggestions?
How about hopstand/whirlpooling??? (I've never done it)

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Boil Size: 11.85 gal
Post Boil Volume: 11.23 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 10.60 gal
Bottling Volume: 10.60 gal
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 7.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 67.8 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.4 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.12 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
20 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 87.0 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal 15L (15.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.7 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.3 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 24.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 6 13.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 4.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 12.4 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 9 -
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 10 4.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 11 4.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 12 4.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
1.80 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 23 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 28.75 qt of water at 164.9 F 150.0 F 75 min

 

[firefly765]

OK. looks like this is the final version, heating my mash water right now. Any glaring weaknesses?
Here we go!
Boil Size: 11.85 gal
Post Boil Volume: 11.23 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 10.60 gal
Bottling Volume: 10.60 gal
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 7.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 69.9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.4 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.12 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
20 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 87.0 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal 15L (15.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.7 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.3 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 24.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 6 13.3 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 12.4 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 -
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 4.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 4.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 Hop 11 3.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Steep/Whirlpool Hop 13 7.9 IBUs
1.80 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 23 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 28.75 qt of water at 164.9 F 150.0 F 75 min

 

[firefly765]

ok, so i lied. still tweaking!!!
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Boil Size: 11.85 gal
Post Boil Volume: 11.23 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 10.60 gal
Bottling Volume: 10.60 gal
Estimated OG: 1.056 SG
Estimated Color: 7.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 70.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.4 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
2.12 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
20 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 87.0 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal 15L (15.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.7 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.3 %
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 5 24.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 6 13.3 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 7 -
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 10.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Cluster [7.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 4.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 4.1 IBUs
1.80 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 Hop 11 5.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 30.0 Hop 13 8.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [4.50 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.80 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 23 lbs
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 28.75 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 3 steps (Drain mash tun , 4.03gal, 4.03gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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