chefchris
Well-Known Member
yep that's him.
Yup, that was my great grandfater. Man, small world.
yep that's him.
He knew me on a first name basis (not for good reasons), lol. I was always in trouble as a teen lol.
While we're at it, you don't know any Holland's by chance do you?
Him: "hmmm this beer is thicker than I like" *turns to sink and pours a bunch of water in the beer.
Me: "Gah!"
Brother in-law all the time no matter what beer I make: should be more smooth. I like smooth!
I don't understand BMC drinkers and their concept of "smooth". To me, overcarbonated pale lagers are anything but smooth.
I'm a Holland. My family is from the Eupora area.
I took some to work to stop some employees from being beer snobs.
I poured some into glasses and wrote up what I thought would be the recipe on a piece of paper. I had some employees try the beer and I showed them the recipe on the paper. I asked them if they think I should change anything or do they like it the way it is.
All of them said they liked the beer. A few had some minor suggestions. When I let them know that what they were drinking was Budweiser American Ale, some of them just walked away in disgust but one guy said he wishes he would have been told before he tasted it because he is not supposed to like the beer.
The experiment chipped away a little of the snobbery.
The one I hate the most is "Not Bad". My reply is usually "Of course it is not bad. If it was bad I wouldn't have served it to you."
To me it says, "I was expecting it to be bad, but I am suprised that it isn't"
I also don't like it when people ask questions before they even taste it. "Is this all-grain or extract?" or "What style of beer is it?"
These are questions posed to point out what you did wrong. They want to know before they drink it so they taste the imperfections. They need to know so that they don't say they can taste "Extract twang" on an all-grain batch.
I just simply tell them it is beer and they need to drink it.
Don't be that guy. Judge a beer that is offered to you on it's own merits. Beers do not have to fit into BJCP beer styles to be good.
There are a lot of people that know that they are suppose to hate Budweiser American Ale before they even taste it. It is an ok beer, I wouldn't buy it again.
I took some to work to stop some employees from being beer snobs.
I poured some into glasses and wrote up what I thought would be the recipe on a piece of paper. I had some employees try the beer and I showed them the recipe on the paper. I asked them if they think I should change anything or do they like it the way it is.
All of them said they liked the beer. A few had some minor suggestions. When I let them know that what they were drinking was Budweiser American Ale, some of them just walked away in disgust but one guy said he wishes he would have been told before he tasted it because he is not supposed to like the beer.
The experiment chipped away a little of the snobbery.
The way I see it is this: there are 2 kinds of beer. One you drink for flavor and one you drink to get drink that has little flavor. There is nothing wrong with either. BMC has its place. No need to bash it. If someone says his favorite beer is Bud Lite you know he just drinks beer to get drunk and doesn't drink for flavor. Thats ok.
Forrest
The one I hate the most is "Not Bad". My reply is usually "Of course it is not bad. If it was bad I wouldn't have served it to you."
To me it says, "I was expecting it to be bad, but I am suprised that it isn't"
I also don't like it when people ask questions before they even taste it. "Is this all-grain or extract?" or "What style of beer is it?"
These are questions posed to point out what you did wrong. They want to know before they drink it so they taste the imperfections. They need to know so that they don't say they can taste "Extract twang" on an all-grain batch.
I just simply tell them it is beer and they need to drink it.
Don't be that guy. Judge a beer that is offered to you on it's own merits. Beers do not have to fit into BJCP beer styles to be good.
There are a lot of people that know that they are suppose to hate Budweiser American Ale before they even taste it. It is an ok beer, I wouldn't buy it again.
I took some to work to stop some employees from being beer snobs.
I poured some into glasses and wrote up what I thought would be the recipe on a piece of paper. I had some employees try the beer and I showed them the recipe on the paper. I asked them if they think I should change anything or do they like it the way it is.
All of them said they liked the beer. A few had some minor suggestions. When I let them know that what they were drinking was Budweiser American Ale, some of them just walked away in disgust but one guy said he wishes he would have been told before he tasted it because he is not supposed to like the beer.
The experiment chipped away a little of the snobbery.
The way I see it is this: there are 2 kinds of beer. One you drink for flavor and one you drink to get drink that has little flavor. There is nothing wrong with either. BMC has its place. No need to bash it. If someone says his favorite beer is Bud Lite you know he just drinks beer to get drunk and doesn't drink for flavor. Thats ok.
Forrest
Grape expectations
What wine can tell us about the nature of reality
By Jonah Lehrer
February 24, 2008
SCIENTISTS AT CALTECH and Stanford recently published the results of a peculiar wine tasting. They provided people with cabernet sauvignons at various price points, with bottles ranging from $5 to $90. Although the tasters were told that all the wines were different, the scientists were in fact presenting the same wines at different prices.
The subjects consistently reported that the more expensive wines tasted better, even when they were actually identical to cheaper wines.
The experiment was even more unusual because it was conducted inside a scanner - the drinks were sipped via a network of plastic tubes - that allowed the scientists to see how the subjects' brains responded to each wine. When subjects were told they were getting a more expensive wine, they observed more activity in a part of the brain known to be involved in our experience of pleasure.
What they saw was the power of expectations. People expect expensive wines to taste better, and then their brains literally make it so. Wine lovers shouldn't feel singled out: Antonio Rangel, the Caltech neuroeconomist who led the study, insists that he could have used a variety of items to get similar results, from bottled water to modern art.
Expectations have long been a topic of psychological research, and it's well known that they affect how we react to events, or how we respond to medication. But in recent years, scientists have been intensively studying how expectations shape our direct experience of the world, what we taste, feel, and hear. The findings have been surprising - did you know that generic drugs can be less effective merely because they cost less? - and it's now becoming clear just how pervasive the effects of expectation are.
The human brain, research suggests, isn't built for objectivity. The brain doesn't passively take in perceptions. Rather, brain regions involved in developing expectations can systematically alter the activity of areas involved in sensation. The cortex is "cooking the books," adjusting its own inputs depending on what it expects.
Although much of this research has been done by scientists interested in marketing and consumer decisions, the work has broad implications. People assume that they perceive reality as it is, that our senses accurately record the outside world. Yet the science suggests that, in important ways, people experience reality not as it is, but as they expect it to be.
Simply put, if something is cheap you look for flaws. If it is expensive, you look for positive things that justify you spending that much money.
If any of you start a brewery, being a slave to cheap six packs only devalues your product no matter how good it is.
If you make $5 22oz bombers the beer is twice as expensive so it will taste considerably better, even if it is the same exact beer.
Work smarter not harder.
Forrest
About an IPA I made and brought to my company picnic to share:
Me: "You want to try one?"
Boss: "Sure. What's it taste like? Is it good?"
Me: "Yeah, it's great." (pour in picnic cup, hand to boss)
Boss: "Ugh, that's awful." (Pours the beer out on the grass)
Yeah.
DB
Roman
Wow, he would have fired me after the fire department removed my fist from his mouth.About an IPA I made and brought to my company picnic to share:
Me: "You want to try one?"
Boss: "Sure. What's it taste like? Is it good?"
Me: "Yeah, it's great." (pour in picnic cup, hand to boss)
Boss: "Ugh, that's awful." (Pours the beer out on the grass)
Yeah.
DB
Roman
My coworker is convinced that either hops or ales make him sleepy, and likely wouldn't take more than a couple sips of my homebrew. Only will drink BMC. Any backing to this idea?
About an IPA I made and brought to my company picnic to share:
Me: "You want to try one?"
Boss: "Sure. What's it taste like? Is it good?"
Me: "Yeah, it's great." (pour in picnic cup, hand to boss)
Boss: "Ugh, that's awful." (Pours the beer out on the grass)
Yeah.
DB
Roman
Wow, he would have fired me after the fire department removed my fist from his mouth.
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