Ha, well, the keg is drained (that was a very popular poker night brew for my bud-light loving friends), but I have three bottles tucked away in the lagering cooler, just in case. I won't drink them yet - thanks! :rockin:
The 2016 NHC - Results/Speculation Thread
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Ha, well, the keg is drained (that was a very popular poker night brew for my bud-light loving friends), but I have three bottles tucked away in the lagering cooler, just in case. I won't drink them yet - thanks! :rockin:
surgical_ass
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thanks for passing along the FB update! I'm one of the ppl left on earth that dosent have FB..
microbusbrewery
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Just checked the mail and still nadã. I guess I'm going to have to treat this like my sour beers and just pretend it doesn't exist for a while.
If it makes you feel better I live less than 20 minutes from the Denver Drop off location and have not received anything either.
microbusbrewery
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Ha, OK I'll quit complaining then. They must be mailing them out in batches or something. I got to drop mine off this year as I was in Denver visiting friends. Station 26 is pretty cool and I really enjoyed their Juicy Banger IPA.
NervousDad
BFM
d'oh re-brewed my brown ale yesterday and everything went perfect until I decided (like an idiot) to toss in an ounce of whole flower Citra! I jammed my system up and was only able to get about 3 gallons. Looks like I'll be brewing it again on Friday.
Got the NY score sheets yesterday, and now I am more confused than ever, can someone explain, at least in the cider category, how the mini- BOS works?
I had 3 ciders entered in the specialty cider category out of 21 other entries, each in a different sub category, and all 3 advanced to the mino BOS and then 2 of the 3 advanced to the finals (scored 34.5 & 35.5) However the one that went to the mini-BOS and did not advance scored higher (38) than the 2 that advanced to finals, I thought the first round was chosen merely on the score sheets?
I had 3 ciders entered in the specialty cider category out of 21 other entries, each in a different sub category, and all 3 advanced to the mino BOS and then 2 of the 3 advanced to the finals (scored 34.5 & 35.5) However the one that went to the mini-BOS and did not advance scored higher (38) than the 2 that advanced to finals, I thought the first round was chosen merely on the score sheets?
NervousDad
BFM
The best beers of the flight are moved to mini Bos. Then the judges choose their top three. They don't know the score of the advancing beers. You need at least a 30.
Mini-BOS is used when a category is split into multiple groups of judges (this is almost all categories at NHC, and most large comps, and then sometimes particularly large categories at small comps). The entries are split up between the sets of judges (say 16 entries, two sets of judges each judge 8 of them). Each set of judges then sends up their top three, and the highest ranked judges from each set then work together tasting those top 6 side by side to determine first through third.
Basically score determines who advances to mini-BOS. At mini-BOS, previous scores are ignored, and there's a reason for that. If one flight of judges is harsher or more generous than another, the scores won't line up (and that's very common). One set of judges could give a beer (or in this case a cider) a 38 and the other set could have given the same exact entry a 33. If it went on scores alone, that could be the difference between placing/advancing, and not. This way, each entry is given a fair and equal evaluation.
Sometimes it works that high scoring entries miss out, or that lower scoring entries advance or even win. Sometimes that's because the original judges were overly generous or overly harsh. Sometimes an entry can be perfectly to style, but lack the "intangibles" to make it stand out among the others (this is where lower gravity milder beers can potentially unfairly suffer in comps unless the judges are good at what they do). In many comps (where the same bottle is used for both judging and mini-BOS and the 2nd reserved for best of show, but this isn't the case with NHC as the second bottle IS the mini-BOS bottle), simply sitting after opening (even if recapped and put back in the fridge) can do enough damage to cause a beer wonderful when judging to falter in mini-BOS (I've had that happen many, many times when judging).
Hope that helps.
BrewerBrad82
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+1 Facebook is garbage
surgical_ass
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How many here have placed in the final round before? What was the brew?
surgical_ass
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How did those do in the final round? Do they assign a place your beer finished in or just a score sheet?
I got a silver with a Munich Helles in 2012. My first ever lager!
I've had a few get through first round in the years since by no joy in the finals. I'm hoping for at least 1 of the 4 this year to get something.
I have had 6 make it to the finals over the last 3-4 years, with 3 more making it this year. Of those 6 that have made it to the finals, 3 made mini BOS in their category. However, I still have yet to snag a medal at NHC. Hoping I can pull one off this year. All 3 entries are rebrewed already.
NervousDad
BFM
I just realized today is 4/20 and I'm rebrewing my very dank IIPA. This has to be a good luck right?
mbbransc
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From the AHA forum:
The selection of the competition sites pretty much depends on having a core group of people step up (contact the AHA) to organize the competition locally. Volunteers need to have an adequate pool of BJCP judges in the region for the competition. Volunteers pick the judging date from a range of dates available (March through April), and they need to make sure they don't have competing competitions, festivals, beer week events, spring break, or other conflicts that could hurt their chances to complete the competition.
That being said, there will be site changes for the 2017 NHC, as there are inevitably every year. Florida has requested to be an NHC First Round site next year, as has Kansas City. Typically the AHA gives first right of refusal to the existing sites.
Thanks to all of the people who have volunteered to put on the NHC over the last 10 years! I really, really appreciate your enthusiasm, and effort, and most importantly, your time and devotion to homebrewing. Cheers to you!
Cheers,
Janis Gross
National Homebrew Competition Director
The selection of the competition sites pretty much depends on having a core group of people step up (contact the AHA) to organize the competition locally. Volunteers need to have an adequate pool of BJCP judges in the region for the competition. Volunteers pick the judging date from a range of dates available (March through April), and they need to make sure they don't have competing competitions, festivals, beer week events, spring break, or other conflicts that could hurt their chances to complete the competition.
That being said, there will be site changes for the 2017 NHC, as there are inevitably every year. Florida has requested to be an NHC First Round site next year, as has Kansas City. Typically the AHA gives first right of refusal to the existing sites.
Thanks to all of the people who have volunteered to put on the NHC over the last 10 years! I really, really appreciate your enthusiasm, and effort, and most importantly, your time and devotion to homebrewing. Cheers to you!
Cheers,
Janis Gross
National Homebrew Competition Director
jnacey
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All posted.
surgical_ass
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Bingo! Gold in nashville with a north east style ipa
Congrats! Well worth the wait.
Robbienev
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mbbransc
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Impressive! Surely didn't think a hazy beer would advance!
surgical_ass
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That makes 2 of us! Had nothing else to send that had a chance. Rolled the dice!
Good for you - I have been hesitant to enter mine in the past because I figured it would just get overlooked due to the hazy/cloudy appearance. Get a decent score, but not place type of thing. Good to hear you did well with one like this.
Congrats!! Which category did you enter it under Specialty IPA or Specialty Beer.
Congrats! I'm joining you in that list!
Get any scores or scoresheets yet?
surgical_ass
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Thanks! Your northeast ipa thread was instrmental in making this brew. Was just reviewing it before rebrew!
surgical_ass
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Ah well, none of my three entries went on to the second round. They were all award winners in other competitions (the Pacific Brewers Cup and the National Organic Homebrew Competition, in particular), so I thought I had a pretty good shot at moving up. I entered in 20B (Historical Beer - Gose, 24 entries), 21A (Belgian Blonde Ale, 28 entries), and 24A (Spice, Herb, and Vegetable Beer - Vanilla Porter, 30 entries). Looking forward to getting my scoresheets to see how they compare to the other feedback I've received.
Congratulations to everyone who has beers going to Baltimore!
Congratulations to everyone who has beers going to Baltimore!
Outside of the scores themselves, don't expect much for feedback. Checklist scoresheets and such.
Nope. I've been checking the brewing comp website a ton today, and hoping for an email saying the scores are out, but not yet!
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