SittingDuck
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TyTanium said:Brew what you like, drink what you like, don't be a tool.
This. This right here.
TyTanium said:Brew what you like, drink what you like, don't be a tool.
And +1 for Sam's response. It's one thing to say Ryobi is overrated because the batteries don't last and the tools break. For something as subjective as beer, that whole thread was ridiculous and Sam nailed it, tactfully.
The truth is some people in that feed are pretty smart, some are average and some maybe a little less than all that ... some have college degrees and some never finished high school ... and throw on top of that some of them are a little drunk ... why would you as a good business man even comment there ?? ... and then go on to put people down for stating opinions as to what breweries are overrated ??
Are you fecking KIDDING me? I have had the same Ryobi coordless 18v power tools for over a decade of daily use. Of course I expect to replace batteries every now and again.
The smart ones took the diatribe for what it was. And gained some respect for Sam.
The average ones didn't give a ****.
And the dumb ones didn't understand it.
And the drunk ones took it as beligerant and began to puff out their chests.
Which one of those were you?
I wouldn't totally disagree with that, but I will say this ... if I am in the business of selling beer and I am talking to a bunch of very passionate beer drinkers, I am coming off very humble, nice and overly considerate of ALL of their opinions ..
I wasn't in that thread ... but had I been and considering I just had to look up the word "diatribe" ... I guess I might fall into the dumb and didn't understand it category ...
actually I haven't fully tried to understand it yet ... I think he is saying he is tired of seeing all the negative posts get all the attention .. and he wants to be sure well all understand that if we thought a beer sucked that doesnt mean it really sucked, it means it sucked to us, but we cant say we thought it sucked because others might not try it.
and we also should'nt get to say we think a brewery is overrated based on any feelings or even data we have to back up our stance that we believe it to be overrated.
I'm gonna read it again soon though and I might change my mind .. I dunno.
I just thought he shouldn't have commented there ... mostly that's all I am saying.
I love DFH and all they do... Just last month I had an opportunity to take a tour there.... Who cares right... I have taken several tours there, but this one was for homebrewers ONLY and Sam was the tour guide... After it was all done, you went for a tasting and then got to take home the DNA yeast they cultivated.. Delaware Native Ale to be more precise... Then all the employees had their kids there and Santa brought gifts for everyone...Old and young... lol... Sure, some of their beers are "off center", but he seems like a cool cat and whos cares what people think...
It's like that old joke: "Nobody eats at that restaurant anymore, it's too crowded.”
Fine, but I even appreciate BMC beer... uh huh. I don't understand the desire to bash even the big guys. I really don't understand the desire to laboriously construct a review and over-analyze a beer. Perhaps to make it look like one knows more, or has a "better palate" than others? Silliness.
Opinions are like A$$H0LE$, everybody has one. Just seems like there are a lot more on BA...
The crap he was responding to is why I stopped frequenting BA for anything but reviews. That place has gotten obnoxious. QUOTE]
+1
I figure to each his own. I must say that 95% of the breweries people were bashing on that thread are ones that I really enjoy, go figure!
Maybe they are all hipsters. LOL
It gets harder and harder to rip on wine snobs for *****ey sounding reviews the more and more you go to BeerAdvocate, too.
I am sooooo pissed that I missed that tour. By the time I read about it, it was too late to take off work. Sounds like I really missed out
Homercidal said:I appreciate BMC as well, but the question isn't whether or not it's "good" beer at all, it's whether it's OVERHYPED, and you can't tell me with a straight face that those guys don't overhype their beer.
The entire concept of a brewery being 'overrated' is a bit skewed in principle. Is a brewery overrated as determined by popularity as determined by sales?
Overrated in this context is an ego issue. These guys consider themselves aficianados, experts in beer, and it pisses them off when Joe Blow next to them at the bar is spouting off about how much they like 60 Minute, or whatever. Really similar to the indie music scene where a band is cool because no one knows of them and becomes uncool as soon as they get radio airplay and casual music fans like that band. The BAer's are using overrated to say it's no longer cool to like DFH. They probably liked DFH back in the day "before anyone ever heard of them" and now that 'everybody' drinks their beer, DFH is overrated.
weirdboy said:All I know is, I will order a DFH beer the next time I'm out in honor of his post, and to show support for his position.
I have been quite vocal here on HBT about my dislike for the 90 minute, and I stick by that. I like a drier finish in my IPAs. So, hopefully the bar is serving something else...
Most overrated brewery? - Beer Talk & Questions - BeerAdvocate
I am probably late to the party but, anyone over here read this?
I personally don't see the need for a man in his position to put down so many passionate beer drinkers the way he did here.
If he just had to say something (he shouldn't have IMO) after seeing all the negative comments, he should have just thanked all the posters for the info, and vowed to do all he could to change the way people seemed to think of his brewery as overrated.
Thoughts ?
Nearly every poster on BeerAdvocate is a wanker - especially the ones that contribute to the ***** and complain threads. He should have said, "You're all a bunch of wankers" and left it at that.
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