Researching a Brutus-like System

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mojotele

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Hey everyone! My first post to Homebrew Talk in a long time. And it's probably one you've seen a thousand times. But, I need help.

I've been brewing all grain for a while now. I've been using my electric stove to heat my strike/sparge water, mashing in a Coleman Xtreme MLT, and boiling outside on my turkey fryer in the fanciest piece of equipment I own - a 10 gallon Blichmann kettle. This method involves a lot of going up and down stairs since I boil in the backyard which is one floor down from the kitchen. As such, my brew days take a long time and are very physical.

Recently the wife and I were watching Brew Dogs, and she said, "You should make a system like they have." My wife is seriously cool - LOVES beer and is super supportive of my brewing hobby. She's also pregnant with our first child, so I'm sure she'd like to see those brew days get shorter and easier with less scalding hot liquids going between floors. So, I start researching and, like many others, I came upon the Brutus 10. I've since received the plans from BYO and have read many Homebrew Talk threads about what works well, what doesn't, what variations have been done, etc.

So far, I've come up with several points:

1. Definitely want the automated temp. control for the HLT and MLT.
2. I'd like to stick with 5 gallon batches. Neither the wife nor I see the need to upgrade to 10 gallon batches. It takes us quite a while to get through a 5 gallon batch. Plus, it allows me to keep using my 10 gallon Blichmann.
3. While I'm not opposed to electric, adding another 240v source really isn't an option for me. I can't use the dryer outlet as the laundry room is teeny tiny. I think that leaves me using propane.
4. I'm interested in a low pressure propane system since that apparently allows for protections against pilot lights going out and such. Safety is a big concern for me.
5. I cannot weld. While I am acquainted with people who weld, I don't want to impose on them. I've seen weldless stand solutions using angled slotted steel, and I was thinking about doing something like that.
6. People seem to like the banjo burners over the jet burners that Lonnie used, and I can see why. So, I'm thinking I'd use some kind of banjo burner.

That's about all I've come up with so far. My problem is that I'm just a computer programmer. I'm not very handy at all, and a lot of things that are discussed in these threads are just going over my head. Also, many of the posts are a few years old, and I'm wondering if thoughts on certain builds have changed. Lastly, there's just too much info out there. Looking for a good build for me is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

So, I figured I'd just make a post and see if anyone can point me a computer nerd like me in the right direction. While I don't know much about propane, steel fabrication, temperature controls and the like, I'm certainly open to learning. And, being a total newb, constructing the propane system scares me. I'm smart enough to know how dangerous gas is, so I want to make sure I know every little step of that.

Thanks, guys!
 
Welcome back! I am constantly researching and never actually doing the new brew setup. Do you have to have a 3 vessel system? If not look into the Brutus 20 type systems or other "no sparge" systems. Also what is the budget for this build? I think you could accomplish a nice two tiered one pump no sparge type system without too much change from your existing equipment. There is also some sweet one vessel biab systems you could integrate a pump and rims with. As you said, lots of stuff out there. Guess need to decide what your biggest priorities are. Sounds like just having a stand with all your equipment in one place would solve a lot of your problems
 
Thanks for the welcome!

To answer your question, I don't have to have a 3 vessel system. I guess I started there since that's what I know. Budget isn't much of an issue. Obviously, I like to get a deal as much as anyone. But, if paying more makes my life easier then I'm all about it. I'm a little turned off by multi-tiered designs since I'm a little on the short side - I stand at about 5'6". I figured a single tier system would probably be easier for me, and I'm willing to invest in pumps.

I'll have to check out these other setups you mention, though. I hadn't stumbled upon them. Probably because I didn't know to even look for them. Thanks!
 
That said, I'm not opposed to multi-tier if one of those tiers is the floor!

EDIT: Just read up on the Brutus 20 and especially the Countertop Brutus 20. Mind = blown. I've always preached that high efficiency really doesn't matter - one should strive for consistent efficiency. I really need to consider a gas version of that countertop Brutus 20. And, you're right, I could accomplish it with a lot of my existing equipment. Bonus!
 
You may want to check out the blichmann breweasy then. Should do everything you ask and you may be able to keep your existing 10 gallon in the system?

 
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