What I was pointing out is that you said this style is supposed to be hazy, something that I contest. It seems to me that folks are using that as a crutch to make beers that are overly hazy/murky. This style is hazy as a byproduct of how the beers are constructed, and imo shouldn't be brewed with the intention of it being as hazy.
100% agree with this. I've come across some homebrewed "NE IPA's" that were under-fermented, murky/turbid garbage. Tasted like someone mixed under-bittered wort with Tropicana. Some were at club night during NHC this year.
Ironically, it seems this style brings out the best and worst in homebrewing.