don't be so quick to dismiss kits. sometimes you just don't have the grains/hops you want to brew a batch of "......." there are a bunch of great AG, PM, extract kits out there.
And Northernbrewer publishes what's in their kits. I've gone to the LHBS and bought the exact ingredients of one of their kits. A proven recipe is a proven recipe, kit or not.
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