Mongrel
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The Fisher King is available for streaming...but, I don't think I could watch that performance today. RIP
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I'm not saying that that Breaking Bad > Tru Blood/Sopranos, or really taking any stance, other than saying Cheezy's comment hardly came out of left field.
Schemy posited the notion that HBO shows had better production values than AMC shows. Cheezy responded with his opinion about AMC's production values, even if it wasn't an apples-to-apples comparison.
But how is comparing "Breaking Bad vs. HBO" in any way "crazy" or "nonsense" given the context? Breaking Bad is an AMC show. It is (arguably) better than some HBO show, thus the argument is contradicting something Schemy said. Hardly seems like nonsense.
Ok, not sure the relevance in a discussion comparing Deadwood vs Hell On Wheels, but thanks for interjecting.
IMO Deadwood is better as I would say it feels more accurate. Hell on Wheels to me has a more engaging story, expansion west vs dealings of one western town. I like them both as I am a fan of anything from that time period. Also HBO vs AMC production value. HBO wins out.
I am totally baffled why these comparisons are even being made to begin with.
Schemy was making a very specific comparison of Deadwood vs Hell on Wheels and somehow you crazy people are extrapolating that to Breaking Bad vs. HBO or some nonsense.
Well, considering it was a direct reply to THIS v
Did you seriously forget making this statement?
See it now? No? Didn't think so! Sorry we are so CRAZY! Thanks for playing.
Didn't forget, just thought it was implied to those specific shows. And in the case of Deadwood vs Hell on Wheels, I stand by the statement.
but I assumed that was implied given then rest of the post was specifically about that. But, hey use it to suit whatever argument you'd like.
IMO Deadwood is better as I would say it feels more accurate. Hell on Wheels to me has a more engaging story, expansion west vs dealings of one western town. I like them both as I am a fan of anything from that time period. Also in the case of Deadwood vs Hell on Wheels, HBO vs AMC production value. HBO wins out.
Yet somehow Cheezy's reply is out of order?HBO vs AMC production value. HBO wins out.
***Dead Horse*** + ***Stick*** = Hours of fun....Okay, I'm a g*ddamn dirty liar.
So does HBO have better productions values than AMC or not?
Saying "Deadwood has better production values than Hell on Wheels" is not the same as saying "HBO has better production values than AMC". Yet you keep getting frustrated when we don't interpret the former while you explicitly state the latter.
This is what I have issue with:
Yet somehow Cheezy's reply is out of order?
If it's just "in the case of Deadwood vs Hell on Wheels", why do you keep comparing their respective networks?
I just like how they say 'cocksucker' every other word in Deadwood, and 'thoroughfare'
***Dead Horse*** + ***Stick*** = Hours of fun....
It would make sense for HBO's production value to generally be better than AMC's (regardless of show) due to experience. They also tend to spend a bit more per episode but they keep more of it from the cutting room floor. Remember, AMC is still new to the game. That doesn't mean their product is crap... And you can have superior story, quirks, and things thrown in for the fans and have crappy production value. Take earlier conversations for example... Evil Dead is still pretty popular in spite of it being like three decades old and being done in clay-mation. I would claim Tucker&DaleVSEvil is low production too... it doesn't change that fact that it has quite a following here. Dead Alive wasn't the best produced Jackson film ever made, but I'd wager it's probably more than a few people's favorite film from Jackson.
@Cheezy, You're trying to treat "Production Value" as if it meant 'bang for the buck.' *Production Value* refers to the the mishmash of items used to create the final result (at the artistic/quality level).
Oh, and AMC didn't so much come out of left field, they decided that's what they wanted, found a company to make it so on their behalf, and pulled out their checkbooks. That's why Netflix is getting better and better (Amazon ISN'T there yet.). HBO is well practiced so it's not exactly a fair playing field admittedly, but I'd go so far as to say the story quality on the other vehicles is frequently better elsewhere than HBO whereas they (HBO and some of the other premium pay channels) depend on titillating material and lack of censorship to get viewership. That of course doesn't mean they don't occasionally have good writing. We're enjoying Deadwood presently and it's so very NOT my type of show.
All I meant was that I thought the HBO show (Deadwood) was better than the AMC show (Hell on Wheels), even though I enjoyed/enjoy both shows. It was solely meant as a comparison of these two shows, not as an indictment of AMC's productions. I didn't mean to turn this into a huge deal. Artax is dead, let him stay that way.
I need to check out true detective!
The Bridge. On episodes 6 and it's a great show.
This is not available on Netflix or Amazon Prime. How are you streaming it?
I must be mistaking Netflix for HuluPlus then.
You are. I just watched the first season and it's only on Hulu.
Close enough. Either way great show. I think Hulu has actually gotten better than Netflix.
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