Extra stockpot needed for all-grain?

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Hey all,

I'm pretty new here and have searched within the forum and on google but haven't had any luck with this specific question, so I apologize in advance if it's been answered already...

I have a 44 quart stockpot for the boil, but my question is, will I really need another pot for my strike water, or can the 44 quart pot double as a strike water pot? It seems perfectly plausible to heat up my strike water, mash, get my sparge water going in the same pot, then after I get my runnings, use the same pot to start boiling.

It seems pretty obvious that this could be used for both purposes, but I ask because my homebrew shop recommended it. I know they weren't trying to get me to buy more equipment for no reason, because they didn't even sell them there and he said to go to a big-box retailer to get one.

Am I missing something?

Thanks!
 
There are three vessels functions needed for brewing: hot liquor tank (HLT), mash lauter tun (MLT), and boil kettle. They could all be performed in one pot (BIAB), two (same vessel for HLT/BK), or three separate vessels such as a single tier or gravity system. So it depends on your other equipment and process. I generally use my old 5 gallon pot from my extract days for HLT, mash in a cooler, and boil in larger kettle.
 
you only need 1 pot a converted cooler and a collection bucket for catching the first runnings if you batch sparge. :mug:

Perfect. Just as I thought. I already have the converted rubbermaid 10 gallon cooler for my MLT. Maybe he was just making a suggestion to ensure I wouldn't have to clean the pot mid brew. Although, just water... Hm. Who knows.

Thanks!
 
Perfect. Just as I thought. I already have the converted rubbermaid 10 gallon cooler for my MLT. Maybe he was just making a suggestion to ensure I wouldn't have to clean the pot mid brew. Although, just water... Hm. Who knows.

Thanks!
....pasted below stolen form BobbyM here....scroll 2/3 down the page http://www.suebob.com/brew/Bobby_Mallgrainprimer.pdf


The Single Kettle/Burner Method with a simple picnic cooler MLT:

1. First you're going to figure out based on your grain bill, how much water you'll need to make the
ratio 1.25qts/lb. Example, if you have 12lb of grain 12 x 1.25 = 15 quarts or 3.75 gallons of
"STRIKE" water.
2. Heat strike water in your kettle to ABOUT 185F and dump it into your cooler, then close the lid.
Wow, doesn't that seem a bit hot? Your cooler is going to absorb quite a bit of heat in the first 5
minutes. Leave it alone with the cover closed to let it warm up. After 5 minutes, open it up and
stir the water, then test the temp. You're going to want it to cool to about 168F. Remember,
software will help you figure out exactly what temp to use. Once you reach your ideal strike
temp, dough in (mix the crushed grains in thoroughly) then close the lid.
3. After 5 minutes, open the cooler, stir once more and check the temperature in various places.
Again, you want it to settle to ABOUT 152F. If it's a degree or two high or low, it's OK. If it's off
by more, you might want to compensate with a little cold or boiling water. Once you're satisfied,
close the lid and wait 60 minutes.
4. After about 20 minutes, you'll want to start heating your sparge water in the kettle. You'll need
ABOUT the same volume as your intended finished batch. If it's a 5 gallon batch, heat up 5
gallons of sparge water to 180F.
5. After the full 60 minute mash, open the drain valve on the MLT and collect 2 quarts of wort into a
pitcher. Carefully return this back on top of the mash (this is vorlaufing), then drain the entire
MLT into a bucket. If the bucket has graduation marks, take note how much wort you collected.
You're going to find that you lost a good percentage of liquid to grain absorption. In our example,
it's likely that you only got out 2.5 gallons from the 3.75 strike volume. Here's where you have to
decide ultimately how much wort you want in the kettle to start with. You will boil off about 1.25
gallons in 60 minutes of vigorous boil so you'll want at least 6.5gallons to start with. To figure out
how much to sparge with, take this pre boil figure (6.5) and subtract it from how much wort you
collected out of the MLT for first runnings (say 2.5). This leaves you with 4 gallons. This is exactly
how much you'll need to sparge with.
6. Assuming you got the sparge water up to 180F, pour about HALF of the required sparge volume
into the MLT (in the example it will be 2 gallons. Stir it well for a couple minutes, vorlauf 2 quarts
again, then collect it in the same bucket the first runnings are in.
7. Repeat step 6 again with the remaining sparge volume. At this point, you should have about 6.25
gallons in the bucket. You can also split this amount between two buckets to make handling them
easier.
8. Remove any excess water from the kettle and carefully transfer all your wort from the buckets
into the kettle. Stir this wort up and draw off a bit to measure your pre-boil gravity and take note
of it. You'll also need an accurate measurement of how much volume you collected. Once you
have these two numbers you can figure out your mash/lauter efficiency as explained earlier on
this page.
9. Proceed as you normally would for an extract batch. You've just made your own wort without
"instant beer".
The
 
Yeah, I've got my 8gal kettle I boil in, a cooler, and then a 3gal kettle from my partial mash days. After the mash is started, I heat up the sparge water in the kettle. Then I can drain the first runnings into the 3gal kettle, sparge from the BK, then pour the first runnings into the BK and start the heat going. So long as my first runnings are under 3 gal, I should be fine!

The other option I've seen, if you don't want to buy a second pot, is to wait until a 5 or 10 gal cooler goes on sale and set it up as the HLT. You'd have to move the sparge water into it, then drain first runnings back into BK before sparging, but this way you could fly sparge if you wanted (and had a gravity tier system set up). I'm thinking about going this way just so I don't have another pot to clean, and it looks like a 5 gal cooler only runs $30 or so.
 
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