What's that supposed to mean? I just took that as you referring to me as a whore or something
Long running marketing campaign, not calling you a whore...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...ay-inn-express-makes-stay-smart-move/2061317/
What's that supposed to mean? I just took that as you referring to me as a whore or something
What's that supposed to mean? I just took that as you referring to me as a whore or something. You should be downright ashamed of yourself. And here you are as a vendor ****ting on another member and former customer on a matter that probably doesn't affect him. That's cute.
Where do I send my resume? I did not intend snark but i most certainly wanted to see where this guy got his info. The lynch mob cannot blame me for that but clearly, you all do. I'm woman enough to apologize for any unintended snark on my part. I thanked the guy for his link but again, it's easier to continue an attack online than it is to just move on.
Passed, it actually looks like it is the thickness of an eggshell or just above.
Is it too early in the day for popcorn?
I read one of the articles on the home page here a few months ago where the author broke down a pretty detailed comparison of glass vs plastic (No mention of stainless steel). In short, it said that even high quality, food grade, plastic can have some oxygen permeation during a long fermentation. As a result I ended up buying the plastic 6.5gal BMB for primary and the glass 5gal BMB for secondary. Reading this thread, I'm really glad I read that article before deciding what to buy. Haven't had any issues with the plastic 6.5gal, and the extra head space is great. The 5gal BMB seems pretty sturdy all the way around and will soon have a barley wine in it for the long haul.
Link: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/Glass-or-Plastic-Which-Big-Mouth-Bubbler-is-for-you.html
The article you link to does not give an amount for the oxygen that is passed through the walls of a plastic vessel. So far I have not found an article that definitively answers the question of exactly how much O2 is passed through into your beer.
I believe that Sparrow has a chart in Wild Brews (I'd have to go downstairs and look at my copy to be certain)
O2 permeability is so overrated for homebrewing. Eveyone jizzes their pants for barrel aged this and that yet those have far far greater permeability then glass and plastic. And on top of that, the bung is what leaks the most anyway and pretty sure those are identical for glass or plastic.
Seriously, though. Why can't companies make a NICE glass fermentor that has a very low chance of breaking with normal use? With something like 3/16" or 1/4" glass. Something big and heavy and SOLID?
I think this is the big thing to note here. Without empirical data to back me up, I'd guess that the VAST majority of Oxygen introduced into a beer is done via the opening, or during racking. (For most people who aren't extremely anal about their methods and are using CO2 and closed systems.)
Seriously, though. Why can't companies make a NICE glass fermentor that has a very low chance of breaking with normal use? With something like 3/16" or 1/4" glass. Something big and heavy and SOLID?
Seriously, though. Why can't companies make a NICE glass fermentor that has a very low chance of breaking with normal use? With something like 3/16" or 1/4" glass. Something big and heavy and SOLID?
Greed is why my friend....Greed.
Sure people want inexpensive but not to the point of wreeckless endangerment.
I'm broke as F**k but i refuse to buy chinese/mexican glass carboys.
If i'm going for glass it's italian or nothing regardless of price because 10-20 bucks more on a glass carboy is a hell of a lot better than 2-k on a hopital visit.
Much less painfull on the wallet as well as the body in the long run.
I guess that we can agree that we disagree.
It can't cost that much more to make a glass BMB thicker.
Probably not on a per unit basis once the change was made but it will cost big bucks if the production line molds, jigs, fixturing, etc need modification.
Since this is a fairly new product, those companies probably just got done paying for the first round....now they find out they need to rework the whole thing? That is probably the rub.
I agree with you in the general sense, but in this specific instance, the glass BMB is $38, whereas an italian glass carboy from the same vendor is $40. You might forgive the consumer who might think the quality would be similar.I think the key to buying anything is research. A informed consumer will pay more for a product they can rely on. Some just want to do the bare minimum, and that's who I spend most of the day with on the phone, troubleshooting. It doesn't help that our economy is poor shape, so most have to go the cheap route to make ends meet, not much disposable income anymore.
As for the manufactures of this crap, they will keep making crap as long as they can sell it. Plain and simple.
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