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I once played Russian roulette with a six-shooter five times with no problem what-so-ever
I once played Russian roulette with a six-shooter five times with no problem what-so-ever
FYI - I have a friend who has brewed about 15 years without using sanitizer. He has a practice of cleaning thoroughly before and after brewing. He also has special hot water heat cranked to the max too.
He brews in his basement and hoses everything down walls and floor. He has a ventilation system too to dry things out. Brews in 30 gallon quantities weekly. Has two large scale freezers w/ temp controls and a stock of about 60 cornies. No kidding!!
As far as I know he only has had one infection. Its been in the last year. He brewed a Belgian wheat beer style where he primed and repitched the yeast. He never repitched any of his beers in the past which was strange.
I don't recommend not using sanitizer since I'm not a gambling type nor do I take all the cleaning precautions as he does. He is a bit like the guy in "As Good As It Gets" where Jack Nicholas has to lock and unlock his front door 30 times to make sure its really locked. I don't have time to get crazy cleaning.
Bacchus - I say if it works for you, do it. I would NOT recommend to others to omit this step until they have a basic understanding on the process. To me, this is a measure of how good of a brewer you are to get away without using sanitizer.
BTW - My friend has a bunch of Iowa State Fair Ribbons for brewing.
I once played Russian roulette with a six-shooter five times with no problem what-so-ever
That's when a couple of butt-brains jumped in and started attacking me. I guess they own stock in the company or something. Or maybe they've been nipping at their homebrew and just want to bicker like a couple of old ladies.
yep, name calling always goes over well in a debate
congrats on that.
signed,
"butt brain"
(and for the record I don't own stock in the "company" - whatever that's referring to)
Where was the debate? All I could garner was that you and your cohort didn't like the idea that I didn't like using Star-San because I didn't think it was all that safe. Next thing I knew, I was being told that I was telling newbies not to sanitize!!!! LOL! I'm always open for debate but when it becomes all-out attack....yeah.....I tend to get a little defensive. So sue me.
Mellow out or a mod will lock this thread.
all out attack??? where/when/how has this become an all out attack?
and why do you keep only saying Star-San? It's clear you have something against that product (which is fine, I guess). Like I said, there are several no rinse sanitizers on the market.
Keep no-sanitizing your equipment, and good luck to ya
Thanks! Are you done now?
I was until you keep trolling with comments like the bolded one
You built your case from your title (Batch #9 with No Sanitizer!!!) - several disagreed and you've become defensive. Can't help you with that. Sorry.
LOL! Funny thing is....I've already received about five private messages about what a trouble-making butt you are. Ok......you win. And BTW.....you're obviously a real hit with your fellow forum members. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
again, name calling doesn't go over well on this forum
The idea that a newb does not have to fret over his/her procedures, especially sanitization, is ludicrous. The only way any other brewer could feel secure is if he/she brewed in your "brewery".
Please do not give those who have not developed tried and true procedures in THEIR OWN situations the false sense of security you have.
It has nothing to do with what kind of sanitizer you choose to use. There are too many variables in brewing to be implying that a couple lucky batches is anything worth suggesting that sanitizing not be employed.
And, as one with no dog in the pissing match, please drop the passive agressive nonsense Bacchus. Your procedures work for you and no one else. Hear me now and believe me later.
This doesn't need to go on any longer unless somebody has a valuable comment regarding the OP.
I post this not to fly in the face of anyone. I post it to make the noobs understand that if I can brew a great batch of beer with "hot water only" sanitizing......they should relax whenever they think they've made some major mistake. Beer brewing ain't as complex as some would have you believe. LOL!!!
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