Apollo Citra Ale

[gladius270]

I've never really come up with a recipe on my own... Just want some opinions on this before I try it, to see if I need to adjust hop schedule or anything.

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.57 gal
Boil Time: 60 min


13 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 92.9 %
1 lbs GreenSwaen©Gold Hell (12.7 SRM)

Mash @ 152 for 60 minutes
Batch Sparge

0.50 oz Apollo [18.30 %] - First Wort 60.0 min 34.3 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [13.30 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 17.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [13.30 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 5 4.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [13.30 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Apollo [18.30 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 min

2.00 oz Citra [13.30 %] - Dry Hop 5 days

WLP008 East Coast Ale yeast

 

[ong]

I assume this is an IPA? If GreenSwaen Gold Hell is a light crystal malt, I would back it down to half a lb or less. Also, I would personally do more steeping hops (maybe 3 oz), to get a bit more flavor/aroma. Other than that, sounds good to me!

 

[gladius270]

Yeah, shooting for an IPA. Was gonna get 10L crystal, but this is a Belgian 12L and it tasted really good raw.

If I upped the steep, should I cut back at the 5 and 30 adds? The hoops listed are all I have.

 

[gladius270]

Turned out pretty well. Happy with the grain bill. The 12L Swaenn works. Really happy with the yeast, too. Next time I think I will cut the 5 minute hops and bump the steep up. The bitterness is about right, but doesn't have the juicy pop I imagined. Perceiving more classic west coast citrus style than the juicy style hop character I was looking for. Is the apollo assertive enough in that quantity to take over the citra?

 

[ong]

Turned out pretty well. Happy with the grain bill. The 12L Swaenn works. Really happy with the yeast, too. Next time I think I will cut the 5 minute hops and bump the steep up. The bitterness is about right, but doesn't have the juicy pop I imagined. Perceiving more classic west coast citrus style than the juicy style hop character I was looking for. Is the apollo assertive enough in that quantity to take over the citra?

Yes. Personally I just do a 60 minute addition to get to whatever IBUs I’m targeting (or your FWH), then boil and cool to 180 or less and do a massive hop steep (generally in the 6 oz range, and then about the same for dry hopping). I don’t feel I get anything from a 30 or 15 minute addition that’s not covered by the bittering charge and the whirlpool.

I certainly don’t think Apollo will overwhelm Citra — much more the other way around. But I think the juiciness comes from the steep and dry hop additions.

 

[gladius270]

Did this with the same grain bill, but LBHS didn't have much citra. Subbed mosaic. Did away with the 30 minute hop add, upped flameout to 3 oz. Mosaic, .5 oz Apollo. Dry hopping with 2 oz. Mosaic.