When Maureen put the article out I never noticed what she linked from Nathanael Johnson on GMOs, today I've been reading them, pretty interesting and balanced stuff actually. Here's the first article.
When Maureen put the article out I never noticed what she linked from Nathanael Johnson on GMOs, today I've been reading them, pretty interesting and balanced stuff actually. Here's the first article.
“It does not appear,” Mellon said, “that there’s any risk that applies across the board to all genetically engineered food and to all people. Each plant is different, each gene insertion is different, each person’s response is different.”
The real concern here is that all of the beers listed contain DHMO. I am taken aback that this reputable news site would not even list it!
"Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol." ~DHMrg
"What are some uses of Dihydrogen Monoxide?"~DHMrg
"in the production of beer by all the major beer distributors"~DHMrg
Preach on!!!
I've been trying to tell people about the dangers of DHMO for years but nobody listens. There's all the stuff you mentioned plus more like DHMO being highly addictive...to the point where total withdrawal from it will actually kill you. It's a major component of Acid Rain. It's used in Fracking and is a major component in the hazardous runoff from that industry.
Just say 'No' to DHMO!!!
Preach on!!!
I've been trying to tell people about the dangers of DHMO for years but nobody listens. There's all the stuff you mentioned plus more like DHMO being highly addictive...to the point where total withdrawal from it will actually kill you. It's a major component of Acid Rain. It's used in Fracking and is a major component in the hazardous runoff from that industry.
Just say 'No' to DHMO!!!
Most GMO modification of plants are there so that the plant is more resistant to pests/fungus which means less pesticide/fungicide sprayed on my food. Seems reasonable to me.
Actually RoundUp Ready(tm)(c)(r)(etc) is a pretty big one. That's a modification that produces resistance to herbicides. So you can use more herbicide. Makes good sense if you're growing it. Not so much if you're eating it.
In my experience, DHMO can only be neutralized to the point of being safe for human consumption when mixed in proper proportion with a solution of hordeum vulgare, humulus lupulus, and saccharomyces cerevisiae.
Stay safe out there, guys. It's a dangerous world we live in.
If you know anything about RoundUp, it is a kill all. The resistance is put in to have the desired plant resist the spray and everything else killed off, therefore they can not reseed themselves. Unless the farmer really screws up and sprays in the rain, RoundUp is very seldom sprayed more than once per crop. Less use of chemicals than just the ones that suppress weeds and lets them grow back.
Just a bit. "High Fructose Corn Syrup" is just sugar. Fish bladder? They mean isinglass. That crap is just fear-mongering. I support getting people to drink craft beer but this isn't the way to do it.
The other thing that the anti GMO crowd fails to note is that pretty much every orange they will eat for the rest of their lives, even so called "organic" ones will be genetically modified. If not oranges will be dissapearing. I heard about this last year.
A race to save oranges by altering their DNA.
The article makes one point that I think is paramount in this discussion; after 20 some years of GMO's being ingested,there's no empirical proof that they cause any harm in humans or animals up to this point. Not that it couldn't,possibly. But that they haven't so far. Yet another case of fear mongering. People fear what they don't understand.
Here's a counter:
One of the reasons I got into homebrewing and craft beer is because it's more natural.
"Hopping" a beer in Budweiser land is a term meaning something other than adding real Hops. I don't particularly want chemicals and crap in my beer or food.
If getting people into craft beer means telling them the truth about how much crap goes into the stuff that millions consume daily, then more power to them.
"Hopping" a beer in Budweiser land is a term meaning something other than adding real Hops.
If you brew you should know better..... you're falling for that Craft beer is holier that BMC bull****, that's just as bad.
BMC is no more or less "natural" then craft brewing, or homebrewing.
Have you ever made hop tea? Have you ever steeped some hops in 130 degree water and run them through a french press and added that to your beer at bottling time? Or soaked them in vodka? That's the extraction process...It's still extracting the hop oils FROM REAL HOPS.
There many craft brewers, and a few homebrewers on this very site who have used hop extracts.
I guess you also boycott Lagunitus then...they use hop extracts in their CRAFT BEERS. As also does Russian River in Eldar the younger.
I've been working with nitrogen cavitation for hop extraction myself.
The CO2 extraction process offers complete extraction of virtually all of the essential bittering and aroma components in fresh hops, leaving behind only the leafy plant material. These easy to use canned extracts include practically everything a brewer would want from a hop, without adding spent hops to the trub pile.
They are 100% Natural with no chemical modifications.
The benefits of BSG Hop Extracts include:
Varietal character preserved
Consistent bittering
Increased hop utilization
Money saving
Increased kettle yield
Space saving
I had a brew that needed another hop addition and wish I would have know about making an extract at kegging time. Probably would have been the better choice than dry hopping.
I wish the foodbabe would die in a fire. Specifically, a GMO, free range, cage free, totalitarian free, shade free, conflict free, equal wage for all, organic, fire.
Or freeze it and place the suspended DHMO into a highly alcoholic solution....I prefer bourbon for that myself.
So to be an organic fire, would that mean it could only be started by lighting?
My concern for GMO has less to do with human consumption, and more of a concern for non-modified plants that are usually categorized as "heirloom" because they are grown less due to their genetic "inferiority" or lack of appeal. These "super plants" are often times more drought tolerant, have thicker cell walls to resist insects, mold, diseases, etc. They are designed to sell in supermarkets because of their color, and last long distances without bruising. There are non-GM plants that are selected for these qualities as well, and the culmination of both forces tends to push out the "inferior" plants. In VA we have a number of farms and nurseries that are keeping these heirloom plants in production so that people can enjoy their unique flavors and colors.
Additionally, many GMO seeds are patented. They can cross-polinate nearby farms and ruin their crops by causing them to seed these new GM plants. Larger farm companies and GMO producers will even sue for crops. For example:
Monsanto vs Farmer
"It does not matter how a farmer, a forester, or a gardeners seed or plants become contaminated with GMOs; whether through cross pollination, pollen blowing in the wind, by bees, direct seed movement or seed transportation, the growers no longer own their seeds or plants under patent law, they becomes Monsantos property"
Pre-Disclaimer ... Im not taking sides, just making an observation ...
Regarding GMOs: arent most of the people not believing scientists when they say GMOs are safe the same people that say global warming is real because science tells us its real?
The real concern here is that all of the beers listed contain DHMO. I am taken aback that this reputable news site would not even list it!
"Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol." ~DHMrg
"What are some uses of Dihydrogen Monoxide?"~DHMrg
"in the production of beer by all the major beer distributors"~DHMrg
Everything on this list is being wrongfully targeted. It's just another article saying anything with GMOs is poison without providing any form of scientific evidence. Reminds me of the foodbabe article:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/alarmist-article-bmc-no-listed-evidence-but-possible-interesting-points-421992/
probably because it is listed as a source
A great response from brewers about that article seems to apply to most points in this one as well:
http://maureenogle.com/maureen-ogle/2013/08/18/whats-in-your-beer-or-the-dangers-of-dumbassery
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