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Old 01-03-2013, 01:28 PM   #371
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Old 01-03-2013, 04:18 PM   #372
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huh???
I think the point is that while these other counties have both less guns per capita and less gun violence per capita than the US, the decrease in one isn't proportional to the decrease in the other, suggesting its more than just gun ownership, ie cultural. And the same could be inferred for drinking age.


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Old 01-03-2013, 05:14 PM   #373
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Good point! I get into it with a coworker about the "alcohol is a sin" thing all the time, I just ask him to show me in the Bible where it says that...he hasn't come up with anything yet. I just don't understand where this radical thinking has any basis in our society (both left and right), the vocal minority seems always to get its way.
He won't, the only talk of alcohol in those books is that of imbibing, not sinning. That's a whole other discussion though, one could fill libraries with the contradictions of a "literal" translation of most any religious text.

You make a great point about radical views being the ones that are heard the most, it's always the vocal minority that gets heard over the voice of reason when it comes to these things. Sadly, in this age of reality television and myfacespace, drama and lunacy is always going to win out over calm and reason. That and people would much rather glean knowledge from television than a book, so there's that issue as well.
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I think the point is that while these other counties have both less guns per capita and less gun violence per capita than the US, the decrease in one isn't proportional to the decrease in the other, suggesting its more than just gun ownership, ie cultural. And the same could be inferred for drinking age.

Yes, that is the point. It is more, way more, than just access/availability and laws. I think it is predominantly culture.
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