SpentBrains
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I had never used a PID before. so? I order a few inexpensive ones from an eBay vendor two weeks ago. While experimenting with one of them before the weekend, I found that not all of the functions I expected from reading the online manuals were supported. Noticeably, the alarm contacts were not even installed even though the firmware supported alarm functions. No programing inputs could toggle the unit from C to F. The thermocouple that came with the device shorted when manipulated and the RTD power connector was not installed either, so I was stuck with thermocouples with these models.
I complained to the vendor that they didn't disclose this shortened version PID's limitations. The seller immediately rolled over and offered a full refund, if I would only change the "negative" feedback I'd entered to a positive one and they didn't want the PIDs returned.
At first I protested and told them that they had earned their negative reputation, deciding I'd eat the lousy $40 loss thereby protecting other potential buyers. I'd just order a replacement set of higher quality and price PIDs...THEN I FOUND THIS VIDEO!!!!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxEhxjvifyY[/ame]
I've spent considerable time in China wandering the vendor's stalls of several of the bigger cities, spreading both "production over runs" and "knock off" goods. I've even worn more than my share of "Brietling, TAG, IWC and Rolex" watches. So I'm not naive, (nor totally innocent) when it comes to enabling the blackmarket in consumer products. Some of the aforementioned are domestic production over runs, some are good copies, while a few were even prototypes that never made it to production. You'd swear they were the real thing. A fashion or apparel item is one thing however; how do you safeguard against bogus electrical components that you can only hope are really designed to handle a 30A circuit without a saftey compromise?!!!!!
Imagine a 30 AMP dead short in the middle of your brew due to a counterfeit SSR
I complained to the vendor that they didn't disclose this shortened version PID's limitations. The seller immediately rolled over and offered a full refund, if I would only change the "negative" feedback I'd entered to a positive one and they didn't want the PIDs returned.
At first I protested and told them that they had earned their negative reputation, deciding I'd eat the lousy $40 loss thereby protecting other potential buyers. I'd just order a replacement set of higher quality and price PIDs...THEN I FOUND THIS VIDEO!!!!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxEhxjvifyY[/ame]
I've spent considerable time in China wandering the vendor's stalls of several of the bigger cities, spreading both "production over runs" and "knock off" goods. I've even worn more than my share of "Brietling, TAG, IWC and Rolex" watches. So I'm not naive, (nor totally innocent) when it comes to enabling the blackmarket in consumer products. Some of the aforementioned are domestic production over runs, some are good copies, while a few were even prototypes that never made it to production. You'd swear they were the real thing. A fashion or apparel item is one thing however; how do you safeguard against bogus electrical components that you can only hope are really designed to handle a 30A circuit without a saftey compromise?!!!!!
Imagine a 30 AMP dead short in the middle of your brew due to a counterfeit SSR
. We agreed with you about your video and SSR issue, just saying don't buy a PID that won't do what you want, because you didn't spend 2 mins reading the specs, and then leave a bad review. And the board here has a lot of extremely helpful people, if you have a question about houw PID/SSRs work you won't get snarky responses (unless you call yourself Einstein), but a lot of helpful responses.
