Do your under age kids drink w/you at home?

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I was allowed to drink as a kid (special occasions / sips of beer or wine / etc), and got the "call us if you are drunk at a party and we'll pick you up" speech. I feel that a direct result of these policies is the fact that I was never tempted to get in a situation where I would have to drive drunk, or otherwise drink irresponsibly.

I never took them up on the offer for a ride, it just encouraged me to be responsible for my own actions.

I plan to do the exact same things for my kids.
 
I more for teaching my kids what is prudent. Hopefully they don't grow up to be 'that guy,' the one driving the speed limit in the fast lane. Driving 10-20 over out in BFE is one thing but through someone's neighborhood is quit another.
 
HbgBill said:
You are absolutely correct.. it is NOT illegal in your home.. unless the kid get's drunk and then you have a potential for child abuse. However, my point was regarding "teaching moment". I don't care of it is alcohol or what it is. If it is against the law.. it's against the law. It's like teaching your child, by example, to cheat or lie (fill in the blank) "in certain circumstances" (as defined by who?). I believe cheating, stealing, lying is is wrong.. that's me.. I don't want my kids to learn something from me, carry it to another level.. and have that hanging over my head.. ever.

Sorry, but I know I'm getting off topic. Again, I'm responding to "teaching moment"

Heh, I remember my dad at one time drinking with uncles. I asked him if I could have a taste of his beer. He said "let me see your teeth. I showed him and he said they were dirty go brush them and we'll see" I did, came back.. hmmm they were still too dirty. And again.. I gave up. I would rather have had him simply say.. sorry but no. But, I got the idea. He didn't overindulge nor did my mom.. except once that I remember. Maybe he was giving me a "teaching moment" :D
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do you really need the government to tell you that it's a bad idea to let a 12 yr old get drunk. Dumb is dumb, the legality of it doesn't matter.

I really hate the "follow the law because it's the law BS." What happened to thinking for ourselves. If you recall it was illegal for us to be Americans in the first place so you might as well start saying "God Save the Queen"

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I got sips, nips, and tastes of this and that while I was a kid. So alcohol has never been a big deal. Never bothered to ask if it was a plan to demystify it or what.

Our eldest has had a taste here and there, the following face of utter revulsion is quite funny. We don't treat it as a big deal. And we point out the importance of moderation and responsibility.

It's amazing what openness and communication can do, or prevent.
 
I want my kids to start drinking at home at about 12. That way they can have a good 4 years of experience before they hit the road. lol
 
I think the younger, the better. I was raised around beer/wine/whiskey and I'd get sips of beer as young as I can remember. I also remember my first whiskey cocktail around 12 after killing my first deer. I never pursued alcohol, never stole from the cabinets or anything like that, also never really drank in high school due to sports and whatnot. I think I was about 15-16 when my mom and dad started offering me whole beers and wine whenever we had nice dinners or grilled in the backyard - but I'd have one and just be not interested in it.

I think as long as your kid doesn't have a crazy genetic predisposition to alcoholism and you don't see them turning into an alcohol-seeker - why not?
 
i had three rules growing up, im only 26 now,

1. dont get arrested
2. dont get a girl pregnant
3. never do any drugs harder than pot.

i turned out alright. did my fair share of drinking. early on. actually reduced my desire to party hard later, college etc.... i say let them drink
 
HbgBill said:
Heck, my pet peeve is the last two people who sneak thru the intersection well after the light is red.
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HbgBill, not to change the direction of the post... Nassau county NY generated $27.8 million in fines and administrative fees in 2011 from red light cameras. It has helped reduce the number of people trying to squeeze through the intersection and increased the amount of people changing their minds and slamming on the brakes at the last minute. I was pretty surprised at just how much money they were generating. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the fine is $50.00, instead of the regular $230.00 ($150.00 fine and $80.00 state "surcharge") if an officer pulls you over. Pete
 
This never really came up when I was growing up. I guess when actually lived with family members (I moved out when I was 16), the only occasional drinking I did was stupid teen GET HAMMERED ON VODKA nonsense.

I know one of my friends, when he was younger his parents were fine with him drinking, as long as he was home. Too bad he has never had interest in drinking.

As far as if I would allow it, I'm not sure. I'm a long ways off from being in this situation, but I imagine if my homebrew hobby keeps up, I would be okay with the "drinking while home" etc kind of mindset, but I imagine my kid would have to be at least 18. :p
 
I brew with my 10 yo on occasion. He prefers the taste of the wort over the finnished product, which is fine with me. When he sees me pull out the hydro for the OG he always shows up somewhere.

I think teaching/showing responsibility is what's critical. I don't have friends over who brag about "remember that time we got hammered ... huhuhu....."
 
Airborneguy said:
This thread has me wondering whether under-age brewing with parental consent would be illegal in the states that allow under-21 drinking with that same consent.
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I kind of wondered this the other day when I realized that my LHBS didn't card me when buying ingredients. I don't know if they just don't or if they don't have too...
 
I grew up in a very religious, Protestant Christian household where consuming alcohol in any form was sinful. My parents still feel this way, and even talking about the existance of alcohol is uncomfortable. I did not have a drop until I was 20 and a friend (who was 19) offered me a beer at his parent's house. His family drank and let him start drinking with them when he was around 16. It was just natural. While many of my friends this age that I knew from church were busy getting dangerously drunk, I was learning how to just have a couple and enjoy my night. To this day I've only been regrettably drunk a handful of times. It's really your intention. I wanted to drink and enjoy good beer from day one.

If I have kids, I fully intend to raise them in an open manner, making sure they are fully aware of the joys, as well as dangers, of alcohol. I see no problem in having a drink with them as they become teenagers, or letting them have a drink at home.
 
I'm only 23, so I'm a bit of a ways away from this being an issue for me personally.

I was raised in a house where alcohol was always around, but consumed in moderation. I can count on 1 hand the times I've seen either of my parents drunk, and I was always allowed to have a glass of wine or beer at a holiday dinner, champagne on new years, etc. Alcohol was never this forbidden taboo, so I never saw the appeal of binge drinking once I got to college. I think being raised that way taught me moderation and demystified alcohol for me.
 
I drink, sometimes I binge drink.....and have done so for several decades and still pay the mortgage and work. My kids drink and they drank when they were underage (I knew about it because they drank at home) Two kids working and one in university.

we are happy with our decision to allow drinking underage from time to time because I KNOW THEY ARE NOT ON METH!!!
 
squirrelly said:
I must say absolutely not. The law states the drinking age is 21, so I will not authorize under age drinking.

I understand the argument behind revealing the mystery behind alcohol to kids, and after living in europe for quite a while I see both sides of the coin. However, the law is the, and as one who is tasked with enforcing laws it would show a lack of integrity to allow my children to break laws. If anything they are held to a higher standard.
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F@&! the law. Get off your high horse and live a bit, or let your children live a bit for that matter. If the government told you the drinking age was 80, would you stop drinking? If so you are a sheep and a coward! I bet if you permitted it they would likely not drink much at all at your house, but they would feel a heck of a lot more free, and less like they are missing out on something.

Personally, I don't think it's a matter of age WHATSOEVER. It's a question of maturity. And there's no better way to encourage immature and irresponsible drinking than to under-expose your child from the substance and render it taboo. I've seen this first hand. I will teach my children how to enjoy responsible consumption when they start to enjoy the taste...for me, this was around the age of 16. I remember my dad giving me sips of his beer now and then, and seeing him enjoy it with a meal, but I never saw him drunk from it.
 
Only if they help make it!

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Enforcing the letter of the law is great for Communist countries. I am always amazed at the authority worship when I travel in the States (which I do often). I am proud to live in the freedom of Canada (overtaxed as we are). My 4 year old Son helps me brew and helps to taste. I hope it prevents him from too much binge drinking when he gets older. He loves my double oatmeal smoked stout, so he does have taste!
 
mk1Miata said:
Enforcing the letter of the law is great for Communist countries. I am always amazed at the authority worship when I travel in the States (which I do often). I am proud to live in the freedom of Canada (overtaxed as we are). My 4 year old Son helps me brew and helps to taste. I hope it prevents him from too much binge drinking when he gets older. He loves my double oatmeal smoked stout, so he does have taste!
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Freedom of canada? Confused by that statement.
 
squirrelly said:
I must say absolutely not. The law states the drinking age is 21, so I will not authorize under age drinking.

I understand the argument behind revealing the mystery behind alcohol to kids, and after living in europe for quite a while I see both sides of the coin. However, the law is the, and as one who is tasked with enforcing laws it would show a lack of integrity to allow my children to break laws. If anything they are held to a higher standard.
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lol it is illegal to sell alcohole to anybody under 21. its not illegal for them to drink some. were you joking?

i was sippin my dads white russians when i was 5. same with beer or any drink he may have had.

it was fine. did you rubbing brandy on baby's gums helps them with teething?

no offense you might wanna lighten up alil
 
Every beautiful place I go in the States (and you do have an abundance) is festooned with signage listing what is prohibited. My travels in Canada are list free. 18 is the the age to vote and drink. I've never been asked to prove that I am married to get a hotel room in this country. Don't get me wrong, I love to visit the States, but it could be that much better without the overbearing authority everywhere. Loosen up just a bit and be good parents, good roll models and practice moderation. Most of all, keep brewing, and don't forget what is truly important in the short time we have on this orb.
 
My parents allowed me sips of beer/wine after I turned 13. When I turned 16 I was allowed to have a beer whenever I wanted as long as I was at home. My father would travel and bring home different beers. We would drink them together after I turned 16. They wanted me to respect alcohol's affect, but not be afraid to have a drink or to abuse it. I will probably do something similar with my daughter. Although I doubt she will want to try beer. She can't stand the smell of it. My state allows underage drinking at home under parent supervision. Some states don't. I would think twice if my state didn't allow it because if my daughter ever mentioned it, the over the top law enforcement in this state would have me arrested by day's end.
 
squirrelly said:
I must say absolutely not. The law states the drinking age is 21, so I will not authorize under age drinking.

I understand the argument behind revealing the mystery behind alcohol to kids, and after living in europe for quite a while I see both sides of the coin. However, the law is the, and as one who is tasked with enforcing laws it would show a lack of integrity to allow my children to break laws. If anything they are held to a higher standard.
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I hope this means that if you see another cop speeding that you'll write him a ticket.
 
Pops used to have me go to the fridge and get his beers for him. As young as 5 I remember opening the can (the old pull tab type) and taking the first drink. He'd ***** every time telling me the first drink is the coldest and I took it...lol.
 
I remember when i was a kid i tasted my dads caned old style or something i dont know but i always to this day remember the taste of it it was weird but i liked sneaking into my uncles porn stash too.I think i liked the porn mags more.
 
Malfet THANKS for the GREAT link there!!!

A sip here or there will not hurt anyone. My one Daughter loves tasting my different beers. The younger one doesn't like the smell or taste of beer at all.

I have great memories of my Grandfather when I was 10 or so. I would be helping him out in the yard cutting grass or yard work on a hot summer day and fetching him his bottle of beer and opening it for him and taking the first couple sips as I walked over to him. He always got such a kick out of it and now that I have my own kids I understand why…

Thanks Poppy, :mug:
 

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