Thanks for the replies by Smalltown2001, McBrew and Blender for your clone recipes which I shall note and record for future brewing recipes.
Blender thanks for posting the Bearcat Brewmasters Black Butte Porter clone in all grain. Without you guys and this forum with me as a starting up brewer, well still just collecting kegs for my many ideas to be applied as budget allows. (takes three kegs to build one with my design ideas). I would be lost in the type of AG I want to enjoy. Again many thanks for all your time and help.
A very slow process on this brewer, thursday I get a radiactive injection to see why my back has me hurting so bad with these old fracrures, buldging discs plus spinal stenosis keeping me flat on my back 80% of the time. Heck I want to build my brewery call it mental and medical therapy, half price two for one. Thanks again guys. Carl.....=o&o>......