Beerhooker
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On alot of post most of the more seasoned brewers say don't use a secondary. Why is this?
Revvy said:Rather than starting ANOTHER thread about this, why don't you just read what's already beer written? It's not like there's no info available...
This is your best source.
I mean, in most of the threads where the "seasoned brewers" say they don't use them, they usually explain why.
No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.
Just a suggestion for the future, both here and for any other message board you visit: There is usually a FAQ located in a handy and obvious place, often a whole section of 'sticky' posts (posts always sectioned off at the top). In this case, it's right at the top of the Beginners forum. Can't miss it. The FAQ covers all the basics. Your question, in fact, is just the seventh on the list.I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.
I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.
Rather than starting ANOTHER thread about this, why don't you just read what's already beer written? It's not like there's no info available...
This is your best source.
I mean, in most of the threads where the "seasoned brewers" say they don't use them, they usually explain why.
I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.
Revvy's not being a d!ck. It's just that this question has been asked hundreds of times. There are hundreds of threads dealing with it - it's been done to death. We appreciate that you are new and are learning - we were all there once. And when I was a newbie one of the best pieces of advice I was given was "Search is your friend." Most, if not all, questions you have can be answered by using the search function.
Welcome to the obsession!
Cheers!
K
Just a suggestion for the future, both here and for any other message board you visit: There is usually a FAQ located in a handy and obvious place, often a whole section of 'sticky' posts (posts always sectioned off at the top). In this case, it's right at the top of the Beginners forum. Can't miss it. The FAQ covers all the basics. Your question, in fact, is just the seventh on the list.
Also in that informational section, just a few links down is another handy link with details about what you're asking.
The first thing you should do on any message board, no matter the subject, is to seek that section and read it.
Cheers.
We were all once new to this hobby, so let's not get sideways about newer folks who give us the privilege of weighing in on their questions instead of only searching through the archives. This can be a confusing hobby at times, and there is no reason to get short with folks who just want to do it right. .
If a polite, helpful, and informative "just as suggestion" post is the same to you as jumping on someone's case, I can't imagine how thin your skin must be. Either that or you just didn't read my post. If you did, you'd see that lumping me in with "jumping on his case" or suggesting I was annoyed is preposterous.No reason to jump on his case if he is asking a question. There is a reason forum is called the "BEGINNER BEER BREWING FORUM". Let the beginners ask beginner questions in this forum. It;s not like he is asking it in the all grain forum.
If you get annoyed by repeating answers to beginner questions over and over again, maybe you should just not post in this "BEGINNER Beer brewing forum".
jjones17 said:When people do not give you the answer you want to hear, try not to think of them as a 'd!ck'. They might just teach you something.
Realizing this comes with maturity, a point that you have clearly not reached. Give it time.
Revvys point is that there is lots of info on why a secondary is a pointless exercise in almost all cases - perhaps you need to look harder, and stop being a d!ck about it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No reason to jump on his case if he is asking a question. There is a reason forum is called the "BEGINNER BEER BREWING FORUM". Let the beginners ask beginner questions in this forum. It;s not like he is asking it in the all grain forum.
If you get annoyed by repeating answers to beginner questions over and over again, maybe you should just not post in this "BEGINNER Beer brewing forum".
Nowadays, the major perpetuators of the idea of secondary fermentation are the homebrew equipment sellers, who's premium and advanced kits always include a secondary fermentation carboy; not because it's needed, but because it allows for a bigger sale. The way it's advertised, it's easy to see why beginners would think that it is the best way to do it.
Is it possible to "sticky" a master "Should I Use a Secondary" thread in the beginner forum? If it's a really common question and members are frustrated having to address it ad nauseum then maybe that's a way to keep everyone happy.
Maybe someone with experience can enlighten the conversation... is dry hopping more worth while in a the primary or secondary?
Read all the books from 20 years ago and it was the way to go.
My take: if you don't have enough knowledge or experience to decide for your self and do not have a guru you can trust then go to secondary...
Experiance will let you know if it's worth it or needed.
Certian types of beers will benifit others will not. (Some will be better if you don't)
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