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Old 11-11-2009, 09:18 PM   #111
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Sure. In the meantime, you can just copy recipes.xml, database.xml etc. to a backup directory if you like.
Thanks. That helps. I almost lost all my hard work earlier.



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I agree. What kinds of specific features would you like?
Just a simple calendar that lets you insert primary time, secondary, aging. I guess similar to Beersmith. I love your simple easy to use software but wish it had a few things like Beersmith does. If it had these few things, It would be all I use.....

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Like a small tool that does the conversion? Sure.
Exactly. Couldn't think of the word conversion when I was typing this.....

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Rocketman,

I hope I did not miss the answer to my question, but does this work with extract brewing (+/-) steeping/partial mashing?

This is great programming! I just would like to try it with extract brewing for now, but I wasn't sure if it is setup to work that way since there is so much in it for AG brewers.

The only other thing I would like is an additional column for the cost of the ingredient: $/lb for grain, $ for packet of yeast, $/oz of hop, etc. Using the total $, batch volume, and set 12 oz bottling, you could calculate the $/bottle (or keg for that matter). That is one of the most asked questions sometimes: How much does it cost you to brew a batch???
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Rocketman,

I hope I did not miss the answer to my question, but does this work with extract brewing (+/-) steeping/partial mashing?

This is great programming! I just would like to try it with extract brewing for now, but I wasn't sure if it is setup to work that way since there is so much in it for AG brewers.

The only other thing I would like is an additional column for the cost of the ingredient: $/lb for grain, $ for packet of yeast, $/oz of hop, etc. Using the total $, batch volume, and set 12 oz bottling, you could calculate the $/bottle (or keg for that matter). That is one of the most asked questions sometimes: How much does it cost you to brew a batch???
You sure can do extract brewing! There are plenty of extract fermentables listed and you can use the mash section to create a partial mash set of directions!
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The only other thing I would like is an additional column for the cost of the ingredient: $/lb for grain, $ for packet of yeast, $/oz of hop, etc. Using the total $, batch volume, and set 12 oz bottling, you could calculate the $/bottle (or keg for that matter). That is one of the most asked questions sometimes: How much does it cost you to brew a batch???
Cool. I hope you're not spending too much money to annoy any possible SWMBOs
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Wow, I just got some major contributions to Brewtarget...

First was someone who implemented UK imperial units, so I'm sure UK brewers will be very pleased in the upcoming version. Also, got a promise from someone to make a very comprehensive ingredient selection.

Now THIS is what I meant by this is YOUR software
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Cool. I hope you're not spending too much money to annoy any possible SWMBOs
Nah, I am just the curious type. Plus, it would help those other curious folk to understand the cost of their beer going up with time.
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This is great! Like someone mentioned before, open source and homebrewing were made for each other.

Would an online repository of recipes/ingredients accessible from the program itself be possible? I know that is kind of outside the sphere of software programming but I think it could be a valuable addition to this project.

Also, where can we donate $$$ to support?
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This is great! Like someone mentioned before, open source and homebrewing were made for each other.

Would an online repository of recipes/ingredients accessible from the program itself be possible? I know that is kind of outside the sphere of software programming but I think it could be a valuable addition to this project.

Also, where can we donate $$$ to support?
Actually, I've been thinking of a website where people can submit and search for ingredients.

As for donations, (thanks for asking!) there's a button in the top right corner of the main page
https://sourceforge.net/projects/brewtarget/
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Would an online repository of recipes/ingredients accessible from the program itself be possible? I know that is kind of outside the sphere of software programming but I think it could be a valuable addition to this project.
I really like this idea. I'm willing to host
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Phillip, this is Randy. Just gave it a trial run and here is my initial feedback from a user POV after entering my next batch in both all-grain and extract versions:

- Pretty easy and straightforward to get initially set-up, but it would be nice to have a quick-help menu on some of the variables in the equipment set-up mode to describe what it is, what effect it has, and how to measure. This will help people quickly fine-tune the SW for their set-up

- Standard <-> Metric is a pain in the ***. All the inventory and ingredients seem to be in default metric units and clicking on the standard conversion basically converts all those measures from their default to standard units. hops are in 0.353 oz instead of 1 oz increments (or quarter oz) and grains and extract are in 2.2xxx lbs after being converted from original kgs. More of an initial annoyance than a true problem once I realized what was happening. Additionally, when in recipe editing screen if I click int he box to change the quantity it defaults to metric units for the entry of the data and then converts to standard for the purposes of displaying the value I just entered.

- Found it very easy to delete information from the ingredient database as the cells containing name and information were very easy to select and overwrite when all I was trying to do was grab that ingredient to use it in my recipe

- Not obvious (if it is indeed supported) for how to edit an existing recipe but save it with a different name so I don't overwrite the original. Useful in maintaining both All-grain and Extract versions or modifying an existing version for some slight difference in ingredients.

- would be nice if the OG, FG, ABV, bitterness, color, etc also displayed the typical style range to see where you fit into the BJCP guidelines without having to go to the style directory

- Hosting a repository of ingredients somewhere would be great. Might be difficult to control people from modifying things willy-nilly if it were used as a dynamic database by the users. If they could select a list of ingredients from the server and import just those "new" ingredients they would like to use then it would prevent outside folks from modifying their recipes. Also, if it is as simple as a delimited text file, you may be able to contact the various major malt, extract, and yeast vendors and show them how to import their data so brewers can more easily access it. Might be a useful marketing tool for them to make it readily available to users and would allow them to update when seasonal, special offerings, or year-to-year variations occur. Not sure they would do it, but might be worth asking to save yourself time if the system is easy enough to use.

- Have not tried Brewday mode yet, but might give it a run when I brew later this week.


Oh, and maybe next time we can host a meeting at my house and tear down that temp chamber you have since I have the full allotment of tools required!

PS. I think you can convert an old cell phone charger to run that CPU fan in your temp chamber since it is just a DC fan. Would keep you from having to run that 300W power supply.


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