Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Winners Re-Re-Re-Drawn - 24 hours to Claim!

Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > What about Mr.Beer or Coopers
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-06-2008, 02:26 AM   #1
bigmny4you
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Edinburgh, Indiana
Posts: 5
Default What about Mr.Beer or Coopers

Hey all,

Of course I am new to the brew it at home way of thinking. I have gotten some pretty good feedback so far about equipment and pricing. However with fuel and food prices going through the roof at the moment I was wondering if it would be more economical and possibly "safer" for the newbie to start with one of these home brewing kits.

I've watched a few youtube videos showing these kits in action and they seem o.k. but I have no experience so I really don't know about the QUALITY of beer I will get.

Let us newbies know how to get started in a cheap yet FLAVORFUL way.

Thanx

__________________

It had to happen sooner or later. An all new interactive social site for home brewers with a myspace feel. Get on over to http://www.homebrewersunite.com and check it out.

bigmny4you is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 02:32 AM   #2
Revvy
Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Revvy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: "Detroitish" Michigan
Posts: 40,804
Liked 2774 Times on 1659 Posts
Likes Given: 3488

Default

Well there's plenty of info on the MR beer thread about making the best beer possible with the little brown keg, here http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=46360

I brewed a 2.5 gallon all grain batch of beer and fermented in a mr beer 2 days ago it cost me $9.40 for the grain, I used harvested yeast from a previous batch of beer, and only an ounce and a quarter of hops which I had in my freezer. If I had bought the hops and yeast it would have cost me another 5 or 6 bucks...

So around 15 bucks for a case of really fresh beer...better than with any of the ingredient kits...

(Info on doing allgrain with a mr beer is at the end of the mr beer thread)

If you use the search feature you will find plenty of info on cooper's kits, as well as cost effective brewing...

__________________

Like my snazzy new avatar? Get Sons of Zymurgy swag, here, and brew with the best.

Revvy's one of the cool reverends. He has a Harley and a t-shirt that says on the back "If you can read this, the bitch was Raptured. - Madman

I gotta tell ya, just between us girls, that Revvy is HOT. Very tall, gorgeous grey hair and a terrific smile. He's very good looking in person, with a charismatic personality... he drives like a ****ing maniac! - YooperBrew


Revvy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 03:43 AM   #3
Hoosierbrewer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Muncie, IN, Indiana
Posts: 792
Liked 15 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

I am not a fan of either kits. If it was me, I would start with a kit that has DME as a base and grains to steep. It allows you to learn more about the grains that are used in different styles and the hops. Some of the kits out there are similiar to condensed soup. You can add water to a can of campbells and call it homemade. You can make better soup, using canned broth or dy broth and adding your own specialty ingedients. Same thing here. I started with Brewers best. It had dry and LME. You can view the brewers best recipes on LD Carlson's website.

If I was you, I would go to Great Fermentations in Indianapolis and talk to Anita. She can help you get a beer that will be good for a noob to brew. They are great. In fact, they usually have some special events during the summer where you could go to one and there will be a lot of homebrewers there. You then have a lot of people to ask questions to.

http://www.greatfermentations.com/

__________________

Primary 1: Oatmeal Coffee Stout
Secondary: American Mild IPA
Keg 1: English Bitter

Next up: Double IPA for friend, Kolsch, Graff, American Wheat, Dunkleweizen.

Hoosierbrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 07:52 AM   #4
MellowToad
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 52
Default

Started with Mr. Beer, but moved to bigger/better things on my third batch. Now, I've got my Mr. Beer keg sittin in a cabinet, empty. May use it for smaller batches of specialty beers. I would normally so just go out and spend around the same on a bucket and an airlock, but not everybody needs those 5 gallon batches. I'm all for it, and best of luck on what ever you go for.

What ever you do though, after you're first Mr. Beer batch, buy regular hopped malt extract at your local home brew shop for much cheaper.

__________________
MellowToad is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 04:46 PM   #5
malkore
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
malkore's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 6,922
Liked 33 Times on 31 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

I'm not a fan of Mr. Beer, other than when it hooks new brewer's on the hobby...but they quickly move on. why spend the money twice? just start with a basic 5 gallon kit that uses a bucket. ignore secondary for now, and just give it a longer primary before bottling.

Coopers kits...well I'm not big on extract brewing anymore, but that's my own opinion. Coopers i'm not a fan of for 3 reasons:
1. pre-hopped: so I lose some control over the recipe
2. crappy yeast: I usually toss what comes with it into my 'emergency reserve' and use a different brand of an appropriate strain
3. they want you to use corn sugar: this thins out the beer, and makes you go "hmmm, I thought homebrew was supposed to be better".


get a kit that uses actual hops, pellets are easiest to work with IMO. often these kits have steeping grains which lend more flavor and aroma to the beer. and skip 'alcohol boosters' if they're an option with the kit.

__________________
Malkore
Primary: English Mild
On tap: Pale Ale, Lancelot's Wheat, English Brown Ale, Steam Beer, HoovNuts IPA
Bottled: MOAM, Braggot, Raspberry Melomel, Merlot, Apfelwein, Pyment, Sweet mead, Cabernet
Gal in 2009: 27, Gal in 2010: 34, Gal in 2011: 13, Gal in 2012: 10
malkore is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 06:30 PM   #6
FlyGuy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
FlyGuy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 3,618
Liked 136 Times on 42 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosierbrewer View Post
I am not a fan of either kits. If it was me, I would start with a kit that has DME as a base and grains to steep. It allows you to learn more about the grains that are used in different styles and the hops. Some of the kits out there are similiar to condensed soup. You can add water to a can of campbells and call it homemade. You can make better soup, using canned broth or dy broth and adding your own specialty ingedients. Same thing here. I started with Brewers best. It had dry and LME. You can view the brewers best recipes on LD Carlson's website.
+1 on this advice. Well said Hoosierbrewer.

Find a local or online homebrew shop that sells kits made from fresh hops, grains and extract.

If that sounds like too much work, look for no-boil wort-in-a-bag kits from The BrewHouse, FestaBrew, or Baron's (in that order). They make MUCH better beer than those canned beer kits if you want to go simple.
__________________
Cheap 10 gal cooler MLT$3 AutosiphonAluminum Pot FAQEasy Steam Injection Mash SystemMake a Frozen Yeast Bank
Improving Stovetop Boiling Improving AG Efficiency
FlyGuy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 07:08 PM   #7
OregonNative
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 168
Liked 2 Times on 1 Posts

Default

I have not done the Mr Beer kit, but I suggest maybe looking into some extract recipes. I just completed an extract recipe and it was very simple and straight forward. I also think starting with extract recipes would help you learn a bit more than doing the Mr Beer kit. I 'm sure you will move on past the Mr Beer kit almost right away. I say pick up a 5 gallon extract kit.

Regardless though, Mr Beer has worked very well for many people. It produces good beer for not much money. I say give it a try if you don't want to follow one of the extract kits/recipes.

Good luck man, and welcome to the hobby.

__________________
OregonNative is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-06-2008, 07:19 PM   #8
paul_h
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 116
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Coopers all the way for me, Coopers brewery is in my neighboring state and a favourite local beer of mine The coopers stout and australian pale ale cans are pretty good. They're available at supermarkets here cheaper than what DME/LME costs.
I agree it's not ideal, if you're going to use extract it's better not to buy kits at all and do partials etc.
But the kits are a good way to start when you don't have large stockpots or room to brew. And you learn about fermentation, yeasts, cleaning and hops. When you get that all down pat, swapping the coopers can for DME/LME and adding some grains to the boil is not a big deal. Learning as you go and adding what you can and feel like customising teaches you more than buying a premium premade kit that comes with everything, just add water. If you start with the prehopped cans like coopers, you still can add different DMEs, sugars, hops and yeast.
I've made dissapointing beers with coopers cans when I was a n00b, I'm just thankful it was a $10 can and not a $40 kit/grain brew. Once you learn more about beer, you can make them drinkable with malts, hops, better yeast. Getting to that stage is a learning process that's all part of home brewing so I think the kits have their place, only the instructions and yeast suck.

__________________

paul_h is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
coopers lager kit cloudy beer mk1271 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 24 02-14-2011 01:51 AM
Coopers Wheat Beer Kit OG? BrewProject Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 41 11-01-2010 03:46 AM
Coopers Beer Kits Mixed at 5 gal rangersjay99 Extract Brewing 5 05-11-2009 04:31 PM
Coopers Beer Kit SALE (20% OFF) TexasStu Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 9 03-20-2009 09:30 PM
Coopers Ginger Beer 80/- Extract Brewing 36 09-28-2005 11:57 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS