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moinkyschmoink · 06-26-2011, 04:58 AM

Something has been bothering me with calling an india pale ale a black india pale ale. I consider myself fairly open minded with names for beer and even types or categories that get a bit off track. But how is black somehow pale?
Easy solution:

IBA

Shoot me down.
What doth yon community say?
And yes, I do a late hop addition to the dryer ensuring fresh aroma and not bitter undies.

lumpher · 06-26-2011, 05:07 AM

iba isn't admissable as a category, i guess, but black ipa is a subcategory

moinkyschmoink · 06-26-2011, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lumpher

iba isn't admissable as a category, i guess, but black ipa is a subcategory

Why? India Black Ale?

mcaple1 · 06-26-2011, 05:12 AM

the bBJCP came out with the style guidelines...its called American-style Black Ale....so let's quit the debate already.

Pommy · 06-26-2011, 05:13 AM

Cascasdia Dark Ale is a much better name. Its dark, the hops generally come from area the area of the cascasde mountain range. Oh and its an ale, makes sense. Much better than Dark Pale Ale anyway. :P

I think this may have been mentioned somewhere before though...

moinkyschmoink · 06-26-2011, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaple1

the bBJCP came out with the style guidelines...its called American-style Black Ale....so let's quit the debate already.

Did not know that. I can dig it. Didn't mean to get anyone jacked up about it.
Thanks for the info.

thegerm · 06-26-2011, 05:22 AM

I'm from nowhere near the northwest. india in the name doesn't make sense. the only things the style has in common with the traditional english IPA is that it's pretty bitter, and it's an ale. there's far more different than in common. having the word "pale" in a dark beer is just f**king retarded.

I think proper respect is due to the pacific northwest community for much of the re-invigoration of craft beer throughout the world, and it's not too arrogant to say they do indeed deserve to have this style named for their region, their hops, their new-ish brewing tradition.

Cascadia Dark Ale is the perfect term for the style.

lumpher · 06-26-2011, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaple1

the bBJCP came out with the style guidelines...its called American-style Black Ale....so let's quit the debate already.

mcaple1, if this topic hits a sore spot with you, please ignore it. some new brewers want to learn

slowbie · 06-26-2011, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaple1

the bBJCP came out with the style guidelines...its called American-style Black Ale....so let's quit the debate already.

When and where? I have not seen any guidelines newer than 2008, and the 2008 guidelines don't recognize the style at all.

Mongrel · 06-26-2011, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by slowbie

When and where? I have not seen any guidelines newer than 2008, and the 2008 guidelines don't recognize the style at all.

They haven't, that's why these entries all go into category 23, specialty beer.