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I BIAB 294 34.83%
I use a 3 vessel system 339 40.17%
I don't brew all-grain, I'm an extract brewer 100 11.85%
What's BIAB? 22 2.61%
I use a system that doesn't fit into the other categories 89 10.55%
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:48 PM   #121
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it seems to me that doing a no sparge and increasing the efficiency with other methods will give a difference in character to your wort. which is fine if you enjoy the beer you make but it would just be more difficult to imitate the classic styles of beers that mash traditionally.

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Old 04-23-2012, 07:16 PM   #122
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Yeah, I personally dont make a consorted effort to "clone" brew.

I find that people who try to brew a "clone", constantly compare their beer to the original. Sure, that's the point of a clone, I get it. But if I want to brew a Dogfish Head 90 Minute, and it comes out a shade darker or slightly sweeter, then does it really matter? I'm not Dogfish Head, I don't work for them. I see the point for one's own sanity that it is exactly the same. Maybe I'm just reading into it a little too much.

The same goes towards the method. I've read a couple people now who have compared BIAB to conventional breweries. Of course a big brewery is not going to BIAB. It makes no sense for them too. It's just not practical with 300+ gallon tanks. BIAB is more for the homebrewers who brew 5 gallons every couple of weeks... My last grain bill was 11.5 pounds. I cant imaging manually lifting 20+ lbs of grain. I probably would never do that. But there is plenty of ingenuity in the homebrewing community and have seen plenty of people that have derived other means (mechanical) of lifting/draining the bag with larger brews. I've stated before that I'd really have to decide if I'd want to go down that route when I get to brewing bigger batches.

Basically, my point being that:
1. BIAB is not a commercial brewery thing; it's pointless to do it if your intentions are for commercialization of your brew. (Although, there's not really anything different about the ingredients themselves. Grain is grain, water is water... I could give you a recipe that I just BIAB'd and scale it up to commercial sizes and use it with a different method, right?)
2. For the sake of lifting hot, wet, sticky grain, BIAB can be a PITA. But I just don't mind it.
3. I feel that if I try to clone a beer and it comes out close enough to the original, then Woooo Hooo! I made beer!

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Old 04-23-2012, 07:50 PM   #123
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Not for me...batch sparging in a cooler is my preference. Trying to lift a 20+ lb. bag of hot grains isn't on the radar for me.
I'm very interested in how you're batch sparging in a cooler while using something "much simpler" than a 3 vessel system.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:59 PM   #124
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I'm very interested in how you're batch sparging in a cooler while using something "much simpler" than a 3 vessel system.
I am not Denny but I use his method, see dennybrew.com
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I am not Denny but I use his method, see dennybrew.com
That's a 3 vessel system: cooler, "pot to heat water", and boil kettle.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:39 PM   #126
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I'm very interested in how you're batch sparging in a cooler while using something "much simpler" than a 3 vessel system.
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That's a 3 vessel system: cooler, "pot to heat water", and boil kettle.
I thought you were referring to a traditional 3 vessel system.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:23 PM   #128
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I have a system similar to the Denny system which I put together for less than $150 including no-weld fittings. I expect that over time my system ends up costing less than BIAB. Even if it didn't, though, I gotta say it just doesn't interest me at all. I did partial mash in a bag after my extract beginnings, and I really prefer the stability and ease of use that I feel with my system, scrappy as it may be. It's nought to do with tradition--I don't care about that at all. It's been an interesting thread though--thanks for putting it out there!

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Old 04-24-2012, 01:15 AM   #129
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There are limits to BIAB. I only brew 5 gallon batches. I've added 15 lbs. of grain in the bag already and lifted it without a problem. It's really not that heavy. I have a $4 pulley from Lowe's to hold the bag over the kettle let it drain attached to my basement joist. Very simple. I'm not sure how well a bag would hold up with 20 or more lbs of grain in it. Would have to be well stitched plus you would need a pretty big kettle. I've been brewing 17 years and fly sparged for most of that. I like BIAB and it works well for me. But that's just my preference and there is nothing wrong with the other sparging methods.

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Old 04-24-2012, 01:21 AM   #130
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Actually, I've never checked if 5.2 works. I don't have a meter and the strips are unreliable. Has anyone ever checked this? Does it work? I'm really curious now.

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